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please can someone explain how these troll organisations work? are they using some kind of AI or automated garbage or real people behind every comment? i can no

by ta_ca 5y ago

please can someone explain how these troll organisations work? are they using some kind of AI or automated garbage or real people behind every comment? i can not believe what i am reading. there are pictures of dead children and people spamming highfives.

petee 5y ago
Consider that someone had to kill those children, so I dont think its much of a shock to think there are other people who really support it. There are disgusting people everywhere in society, but before the internet they used to have to hide a little better
- DSingularity 5y ago
  Although sad, but this is a great point. We have to find ways to restore the humanity where it is most lost then these voices which support such violence would become fringe and ignored.
- ta_ca 5y ago
  a soldier may defer the responsibility and somehow manage to rationalize it. there is also probablity in the equation. but after the fact? horror in front of your eyes how a human being can highfive the death of a children? won't these horrors come home some day? there has got to be some automation going on, these are not human in any sense. i am not talking about a few cases, there are stream of abhorent comments from many accounts.
  - DSingularity 5y ago
    At some point there has got to be a human in the loop, right? I mean, it’s hard for me to imagine that NLP is sufficiently advanced to automate this. Or maybe the present limitations of NLP systems is what leads to “high-fives” on threads related to Palestinian children deaths but that is accepted as trolling absorbs the energies of pro-Palestinian activists and wastes their efforts.
  - petee 5y ago
    You're probably right some are automated, but there is still a human behind it, I guess is my point, and even more behind them enabling it. And based on other things i've seen on the net, and heard in real life, I have zero doubt some of those people high fived in real life. My former coworker could spend an hour justifying peeing on dead soldiers; another can defend cockfighting in once sentence, ending in 'because god said I can.' My dad grew up hearing the only good black man is a dead black man, and that applied to children obviously (dad never took the bait.) There is a whole rainbow of ignorant or angry people in the world
    - ta_ca 5y ago
      i think i might be wrong about those comments being automated. just watched a few videos on youtube, especially one involving a group of snipers and a child. people are so radicalized. i don't want to sound alarmist but there is something so much bigger on the horizon.
      - petee 5y ago
        I hate to tell you but we've been at the horizon for a long time now. But journalism wasn't nearly as open years ago, either simply due to access, or lack of stomach. Pick a decade and you can find a bombed out school, or other mass atrocity.
ta_ca 5y ago
@dang would you please indulge me once and reply why this thread is flagged? in a moment where earth needs to stand still and witness? this is something straight out of manifacturing-consent. in exchange, i promise i will no longer participate this medium again.
- DSingularity 5y ago
  Wow! Why would this get flagged? I think that people ought to know what’s happening.

by ta_ca 5y ago

petee 5y ago

Consider that someone had to kill those children, so I dont think its much of a shock to think there are other people who really support it. There are disgusting people everywhere in society, but before the internet they used to have to hide a little better

DSingularity 5y ago
Although sad, but this is a great point. We have to find ways to restore the humanity where it is most lost then these voices which support such violence would become fringe and ignored.
ta_ca 5y ago
a soldier may defer the responsibility and somehow manage to rationalize it. there is also probablity in the equation. but after the fact? horror in front of your eyes how a human being can highfive the death of a children? won't these horrors come home some day? there has got to be some automation going on, these are not human in any sense. i am not talking about a few cases, there are stream of abhorent comments from many accounts.
- DSingularity 5y ago
  At some point there has got to be a human in the loop, right? I mean, it’s hard for me to imagine that NLP is sufficiently advanced to automate this. Or maybe the present limitations of NLP systems is what leads to “high-fives” on threads related to Palestinian children deaths but that is accepted as trolling absorbs the energies of pro-Palestinian activists and wastes their efforts.
- petee 5y ago
  You're probably right some are automated, but there is still a human behind it, I guess is my point, and even more behind them enabling it. And based on other things i've seen on the net, and heard in real life, I have zero doubt some of those people high fived in real life. My former coworker could spend an hour justifying peeing on dead soldiers; another can defend cockfighting in once sentence, ending in 'because god said I can.' My dad grew up hearing the only good black man is a dead black man, and that applied to children obviously (dad never took the bait.) There is a whole rainbow of ignorant or angry people in the world
  - ta_ca 5y ago
    i think i might be wrong about those comments being automated. just watched a few videos on youtube, especially one involving a group of snipers and a child. people are so radicalized. i don't want to sound alarmist but there is something so much bigger on the horizon.
    - petee 5y ago
      I hate to tell you but we've been at the horizon for a long time now. But journalism wasn't nearly as open years ago, either simply due to access, or lack of stomach. Pick a decade and you can find a bombed out school, or other mass atrocity.

ta_ca 5y ago

@dang would you please indulge me once and reply why this thread is flagged? in a moment where earth needs to stand still and witness? this is something straight out of manifacturing-consent. in exchange, i promise i will no longer participate this medium again.

DSingularity 5y ago
Wow! Why would this get flagged? I think that people ought to know what’s happening.