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> Knowing people in other countries is a tiny minority? Absolutely yes. Especially across two continents. Europeans who have friends from Europe would all be

> Knowing people in other countries is a tiny minority? Absolutely yes. Especially across two continents. Europeans who have friends from Europe would all be in Europe anyway. Europe is larger than US btw, it has two times the population. Russia+Turkey+Germany alone account for 95% of the population of the United States.

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jltsiren 5y ago
I would assume that most Europeans know people living on another continent, or at least people who have lived there in the recent past. There are plenty of careers and hobbies where you make international connections, plenty of jobs that require you to live somewhere else for a while, and plenty of people looking for opportunities elsewhere. Globally, around 1 person in 30 lives outside their country of origin, so knowing people in other countries should be common.
- peoplefromibiza 5y ago
  > I would assume that most Europeans know people living on another continent Not most, just some. 1 out of 30 is a bit more than 3% and many of those have family connections, they are not strangers living abroad, they are - for example - Italians living in Canada. EU citizens whose data should be kept in EU.
  - davidgay 5y ago
    And then said person acquires triple citizenship via naturalisation and marriage, and moves to a fourth country. Does your principle still apply? What happens if those other three countries have similar rules?
    - trasz 5y ago
      If other countries had similar rules for protecting personal information, the problem wouldn't exist in the first place.
usrnm 5y ago
> Russia+Turkey+Germany I believe, in the context of this proposed ban "Europe" means "the EU", not geographical Europe. So both Russia and Turkey don't count.
- vikarti 5y ago
  Are you sure? What if they decided to copy this EU solution (adding they own 'interesting' ideas)? Russia arleady have data localization law, Facebook just ignores it and it's not enforced. What if it will become enforced? Facebook couldn't say this is something unusual because it will exactly thing EU required of them.
anticensor 5y ago
Russia and Turkey have something like GDPR minus a few clauses plus national scope instead of EU scope. Data portability agreements between those would be pretty straightforward.

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jltsiren 5y ago

I would assume that most Europeans know people living on another continent, or at least people who have lived there in the recent past. There are plenty of careers and hobbies where you make international connections, plenty of jobs that require you to live somewhere else for a while, and plenty of people looking for opportunities elsewhere. Globally, around 1 person in 30 lives outside their country of origin, so knowing people in other countries should be common.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago
> I would assume that most Europeans know people living on another continent Not most, just some. 1 out of 30 is a bit more than 3% and many of those have family connections, they are not strangers living abroad, they are - for example - Italians living in Canada. EU citizens whose data should be kept in EU.
- davidgay 5y ago
  And then said person acquires triple citizenship via naturalisation and marriage, and moves to a fourth country. Does your principle still apply? What happens if those other three countries have similar rules?
  - trasz 5y ago
    If other countries had similar rules for protecting personal information, the problem wouldn't exist in the first place.

usrnm 5y ago

> Russia+Turkey+Germany I believe, in the context of this proposed ban "Europe" means "the EU", not geographical Europe. So both Russia and Turkey don't count.

vikarti 5y ago
Are you sure? What if they decided to copy this EU solution (adding they own 'interesting' ideas)? Russia arleady have data localization law, Facebook just ignores it and it's not enforced. What if it will become enforced? Facebook couldn't say this is something unusual because it will exactly thing EU required of them.

anticensor 5y ago

Russia and Turkey have something like GDPR minus a few clauses plus national scope instead of EU scope. Data portability agreements between those would be pretty straightforward.