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We have this situation where I live (Norway). I.e. you will get payed pretty much the same for a low paying job as you get payed when unemployed by the governme

We have this situation where I live (Norway). I.e. you will get payed pretty much the same for a low paying job as you get payed when unemployed by the government. Note that we don't have minimum wage here, but it's not easy to pay people less than they get in unemployment benefits. It still seems that people choose to work. Of course things could be different in other countries, there are clearly a number of factors at work here....

alfiedotwtf 5y ago
> Note that we don't have minimum wage here I'm curious how your UBI actually does compare to someone working a low paid job. For instance, what's the UBI payment per week vs how much would someone working in retail for 40 hours?
- bjarneh 5y ago
  Our "UBI" will be based on a number of factors. It should be noted that we do not officially have an UBI, but unofficially we do in the form of different programs for the unemployed. If you have been employed lately you will get 62% of your regular salary up to ~70.000 USD, for up to 1 year I think. There's a number of programs if you haven't recently been employed. You can also get free housing. But the sum of all the different programs is that you will end up with roughly the same monthly payment as a low paying job, like retail or something like that. At present probably somewhere around 2000 USD after taxes I would guess. If you consider that a normal salary is probably around 3000 USD after taxes, it's not so bad.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > Our "UBI" will be based on a number of factors. It should be noted that we do not officially have an UBI, but unofficially we do in the form of different programs for the unemployed. That sounds like means-tested welfare which doesn’t stack with earned income. That’s literally the problem UBI sets out to solve, not effectively the same thing as UBI.

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We have this situation where I live (Norway). I.e. you will get payed pretty much the same for a low paying job as you get payed when unemployed by the governme

by bjarneh 5y ago

alfiedotwtf 5y ago
> Note that we don't have minimum wage here I'm curious how your UBI actually does compare to someone working a low paid job. For instance, what's the UBI payment per week vs how much would someone working in retail for 40 hours?
- bjarneh 5y ago
  Our "UBI" will be based on a number of factors. It should be noted that we do not officially have an UBI, but unofficially we do in the form of different programs for the unemployed. If you have been employed lately you will get 62% of your regular salary up to ~70.000 USD, for up to 1 year I think. There's a number of programs if you haven't recently been employed. You can also get free housing. But the sum of all the different programs is that you will end up with roughly the same monthly payment as a low paying job, like retail or something like that. At present probably somewhere around 2000 USD after taxes I would guess. If you consider that a normal salary is probably around 3000 USD after taxes, it's not so bad.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > Our "UBI" will be based on a number of factors. It should be noted that we do not officially have an UBI, but unofficially we do in the form of different programs for the unemployed. That sounds like means-tested welfare which doesn’t stack with earned income. That’s literally the problem UBI sets out to solve, not effectively the same thing as UBI.