Well, yeah, like I said: > Whether consumerism is a powerful enough motivator... I just think people are very over-confident talking about what is definitely g

Well, yeah, like I said: > Whether consumerism is a powerful enough motivator... I just think people are very over-confident talking about what is definitely going to happen in a system that has basically never been tried before. People are really eager to look at populations and make very strong assertions about what their intrinsic motivators are with (in my mind) little evidence. > and I don’t think consumerism is motivating them very much. Are 14% of the population below poverty levels because they like living there? Because our systems discourage saving money once you're on wellfare? Because of market pressures? We have basically zero large-scale experiments, but people on both sides of the UBI test seem really confident that they know what everyone will do.