> It is useful to ask what you are trying to achieve with an UBI? There is suggestions that paying everyone a UBI is actually cheaper than the current approach

> It is useful to ask what you are trying to achieve with an UBI? There is suggestions that paying everyone a UBI is actually cheaper than the current approaches to benefit payments. No more means testing, no more form filling, no more benefits offices or case workers etc, no more physical offices filled with admin staff doing stuff, no more claiming a benefit when you are not entitled to it and having to pay it back again in your tax return to avoid missing out on a state pension (this specifically refers to weird child benefit rules in the UK) Everyone gets the same regardless. That feels like a nice idea to me, but I have no idea if it is actually true or not. I know for me personally I have the nice problem of earning too much for a lot of widely vaunted benefits (e.g. childcare, child benefit as mentioned above, tax free allowance etc). It would be nice personally if a lot of these cut-offs and clauses and caveats and minimum/maximum levels and then reporting it in your tax return just went away and everyone just got £500 a month or whatever. I.e. reduce complexity and the machinery needed to run and police it.