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The endless praise for TikTok here is very confusing. I don't think it's in bad faith the account age of the commenters all seem normal and the like. I don't h

The endless praise for TikTok here is very confusing. I don't think it's in bad faith the account age of the commenters all seem normal and the like. I don't have any strong hatred of TikTok myself but usually HN are a privacy concerned skeptical bunch and this is very weird.

defaultname 5y ago
It's Vine 2.0 with great content creation tools and a surprisingly advanced set of filters. What's there to hate? There is another comment somewhere down that claims that any positive opinion is "paid or smoking crack" and that is too common when people feel threatened by something. Many of the things we do in life are simply a Waste Of Time (if we discount being entertained as a worthwhile pursuit). Commenting on HN is a waste of time. Reddit, Facebook, Chess, Gaming, Crosswords, Reading -- total waste of time. It's a bit strange when something comes along that people choose to entertain themselves with occasionally and invariably the "iT's AdDiCtInG!" arguments appear. Bizarre.
- eumoria 5y ago
  Thank you new account praising TikTok and saying HN is a waste of time and proving my point. I didn't ask "what's there to hate" but rather almost NO posts on HN get critical praise for an invasive social media app. Wow.
  - defaultname 5y ago
    While trite and below HN, the best reply is ROFL. You first announce that you've done your extensive audit of accounts and can't yet find the fishiness -- though you're sure it's there given that people have opinions different from you -- and now my account is too young for your suspicion filter and therefore "proves your point"? I literally laughed out loud. This whole discussion reminds me when everyone was fearmongering that Snapchat was for kids to send nudes to each other and arrange rainbow parties. When people aren't in on something, it can only possibly have negative value. My "What's there to hate" query was in response to you claiming that you don't have a strong hatred for it. That's like saying you don't have a strong hatred for deer, or Asians, or trees. It's a weird thing to announce that you don't have a strong hatred for.
    - dang 5y ago
      Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - dang 5y ago
    Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- selfhoster11 5y ago
  What's there to hate? The company behind it, said company's past conduct, and the links it's got to CCP.
  - filleduchaos 5y ago
    so basically every major social media platform in existence (and quite a few of the more general tech ones too), except replace the CCP with the American government Honestly it's kinda fun watching Americans tangle with the "oh no this ubiquitous platform is controlled by a company beholden to a foreign power I disagree with but have no say in or control over!" conundrum for once.
    - dang 5y ago
      Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - eumoria 5y ago
        Absolutely, sorry about that.
draw_down 5y ago
What are the privacy concerns exactly? It’s a firehose of video that shoves content down my gullet. What is there to spy on — which videos I like or watch again? Doesn’t seem like particularly secretive data. Plus, who am I? Besides which, something can be a good experience or nice to use even if it has other concerns. That does happen. Nobody who is posting things like this is coming out and saying what they believe the actual problem to be. It’s all innuendo and implications, shady intimations about bots and privacy. Feel free to spit out what the actual problem is, guys!!
notsureaboutpg 5y ago
I don't have an account with Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. I dislike lots of social media. Here's what I like about TikTok: 1) Quality content 2) Excellent content curation (better than YouTube recommended videos) 3) Not needing to have an account makes me happy 4) I can watch tiktoks shared with me from others without an account and without even visiting the site (videos can be downloaded or ripped using CLI programs).
anon_tor_12345 5y ago
yea bytedance has seen slowdown in user growth so they're growth hacking by targeting potential users on... hn. how about it's a fun app and there are so many shitty apps that that makes it remarkable (worthy of remark)? i know that's why i posted what i posted.

defaultname 5y ago

It's Vine 2.0 with great content creation tools and a surprisingly advanced set of filters. What's there to hate? There is another comment somewhere down that claims that any positive opinion is "paid or smoking crack" and that is too common when people feel threatened by something. Many of the things we do in life are simply a Waste Of Time (if we discount being entertained as a worthwhile pursuit). Commenting on HN is a waste of time. Reddit, Facebook, Chess, Gaming, Crosswords, Reading -- total waste of time. It's a bit strange when something comes along that people choose to entertain themselves with occasionally and invariably the "iT's AdDiCtInG!" arguments appear. Bizarre.

eumoria 5y ago
Thank you new account praising TikTok and saying HN is a waste of time and proving my point. I didn't ask "what's there to hate" but rather almost NO posts on HN get critical praise for an invasive social media app. Wow.
- defaultname 5y ago
  While trite and below HN, the best reply is ROFL. You first announce that you've done your extensive audit of accounts and can't yet find the fishiness -- though you're sure it's there given that people have opinions different from you -- and now my account is too young for your suspicion filter and therefore "proves your point"? I literally laughed out loud. This whole discussion reminds me when everyone was fearmongering that Snapchat was for kids to send nudes to each other and arrange rainbow parties. When people aren't in on something, it can only possibly have negative value. My "What's there to hate" query was in response to you claiming that you don't have a strong hatred for it. That's like saying you don't have a strong hatred for deer, or Asians, or trees. It's a weird thing to announce that you don't have a strong hatred for.
  - dang 5y ago
    Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 5y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
selfhoster11 5y ago
What's there to hate? The company behind it, said company's past conduct, and the links it's got to CCP.
- filleduchaos 5y ago
  so basically every major social media platform in existence (and quite a few of the more general tech ones too), except replace the CCP with the American government Honestly it's kinda fun watching Americans tangle with the "oh no this ubiquitous platform is controlled by a company beholden to a foreign power I disagree with but have no say in or control over!" conundrum for once.
  - dang 5y ago
    Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - eumoria 5y ago
      Absolutely, sorry about that.

draw_down 5y ago

What are the privacy concerns exactly? It’s a firehose of video that shoves content down my gullet. What is there to spy on — which videos I like or watch again? Doesn’t seem like particularly secretive data. Plus, who am I? Besides which, something can be a good experience or nice to use even if it has other concerns. That does happen. Nobody who is posting things like this is coming out and saying what they believe the actual problem to be. It’s all innuendo and implications, shady intimations about bots and privacy. Feel free to spit out what the actual problem is, guys!!

notsureaboutpg 5y ago

I don't have an account with Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. I dislike lots of social media. Here's what I like about TikTok: 1) Quality content 2) Excellent content curation (better than YouTube recommended videos) 3) Not needing to have an account makes me happy 4) I can watch tiktoks shared with me from others without an account and without even visiting the site (videos can be downloaded or ripped using CLI programs).

anon_tor_12345 5y ago

yea bytedance has seen slowdown in user growth so they're growth hacking by targeting potential users on... hn. how about it's a fun app and there are so many shitty apps that that makes it remarkable (worthy of remark)? i know that's why i posted what i posted.