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You can at least entertain the idea, bad ideas spin themselves apart at the planning stage. "I have a mobile smal bbq kit at home. I could bring that in for a

You can at least entertain the idea, bad ideas spin themselves apart at the planning stage. "I have a mobile smal bbq kit at home. I could bring that in for a try tomorrow. But were do we bbq. Fire detectors go off inside the building, so should be outside. Will bring it, but i wont grill out there in the rain, im for a rotating job on that. Volunteers?" There - death by self-execution. And you didnt even murder it by pulling hierarchy, which is always a good way to create a contribution dead company, were everyone just waits for the clock to go forward. There is more to managing then making decisions (like in the movies). And in reality it should be more of a supportive role. And yes, sometimes you must entertain doomed ideas (like flying bicycles - those wright brothers, i kid you not).

cutemonster 5y ago
> Will bring it What if they say yes, and then you spend time bringing the bbq equipment to the workplace (although you didn't want to) and then your manager wonders "what are you doing, this'll set of the fire alarm", and you say "the others wanted to try this"
- exikyut 5y ago
  Provide the context - nicely, of course. If the manager is worth their salt they'll get it, all the way to the point that the BBQ is a team building exercise. If said boss gets it immediately, I would like to know if he's hiring. ;P
- ticviking 5y ago
  Take 5 min to run it by your manager. "The microwave is broken so we want to being a portable grill to make lunch with Tomorrow." If your manager has objections that's evidence it was a bad idea. Maybe it becomes a company tradition instead to have a hill day instead though?
  - gsjjsjsbsb 5y ago
    > If your manager has objections that's evidence it was a bad idea You're just pushing responsibility for saying "no" onto someone else. I would look at the concept of "ruinous empathy" - sometimes being too facilitative and not giving feedback isn't good for anyone.
wiether 5y ago
Thank you. I'll try to keep that in mind next time I'm in this kind of situation and see how it turns out.

cutemonster 5y ago

> Will bring it What if they say yes, and then you spend time bringing the bbq equipment to the workplace (although you didn't want to) and then your manager wonders "what are you doing, this'll set of the fire alarm", and you say "the others wanted to try this"

exikyut 5y ago
Provide the context - nicely, of course. If the manager is worth their salt they'll get it, all the way to the point that the BBQ is a team building exercise. If said boss gets it immediately, I would like to know if he's hiring. ;P
ticviking 5y ago
Take 5 min to run it by your manager. "The microwave is broken so we want to being a portable grill to make lunch with Tomorrow." If your manager has objections that's evidence it was a bad idea. Maybe it becomes a company tradition instead to have a hill day instead though?
- gsjjsjsbsb 5y ago
  > If your manager has objections that's evidence it was a bad idea You're just pushing responsibility for saying "no" onto someone else. I would look at the concept of "ruinous empathy" - sometimes being too facilitative and not giving feedback isn't good for anyone.

wiether 5y ago

Thank you. I'll try to keep that in mind next time I'm in this kind of situation and see how it turns out.