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> I have never seen so many to say "average" people on tiktok like on any other social platform, in a sense that I can relate to those people and don't feel lik

> I have never seen so many to say "average" people on tiktok like on any other social platform, in a sense that I can relate to those people and don't feel like a celebrity is trying to feed me some content down my throat. Youtube was like that before ads and monetization were introduced.

pm90 5y ago
TikTok already does have ads/monetization.
deanCommie 5y ago
The ads/monetization threshold isn't the major difference, but the remembrance of YouTube in the pre-celbrity/late night era is completely astute. We're in a Golden Age of Tik Tok, and it won't last. We get to enjoy the chaos and caucophony of lots of people getting 15 mins of fame. It's not gonna last :(
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  Maybe then it'll be Vine 2's turn.
greggman3 5y ago
For me, youtube is better now than at any other time I've used it. My feed is almost entirely very well made talks, and lessons, and tutorials. That they have a 2-3 minute "this video brought to you by ABC" doesn't bother me at all as the content is amazing. Anything I want to know there are 25+ plus different people willing to explain it to me.
- wccrawford 5y ago
  I've started to get annoyed by the ads for Raid Shadow Legends and Squarespace, and the product placement is getting nuts. I had someone the other day say they didn't think the tool was "sponsored" because the company lent it to them to try, in order to see if they'd use it enough to justify keeping it. Uh, yeah, that's totally sponsored, even if it's only lent. Some of my usual Youtube channels now have 1 or 2 big stop-the-show ads that are unrelated to their content, and then multiple product placement moments that are incredibly obvious. It's really taking away from the content of the shows. I know they have to eat, and producing a lot of content is expensive, but I already pay for YouTube Premium to get rid of ads. And now the ads are infesting the shows anyhow. Edit: I also support my favorite content producers on Patreon as well.
  - freebuju 5y ago
    Sucks that you cannot do away with ads even on premium. Might want to check if this sponsored-ads skip tool this can be of help in your circumstance https://github.com/ajayyy/SponsorBlock https://github.com/ajayyy/SponsorBlock
    - wccrawford 5y ago
      Ooh, very interesting. Unfortunately, I think my channels are one step ahead... They usually mix in interesting video in the background while they give their advertisement verbally. So I often can't really skip them without also skipping actual content. But thanks for that!
  - pmoriarty 5y ago
    "Some of my usual Youtube channels now have 1 or 2 big stop-the-show ads that are unrelated to their content" Using youtube-dl you can get the videos without ads.
    - wccrawford 5y ago
      I already pay for Youtube Premium, so the ads inserted by Youtube are already gone. These are ads that the content creator themselves are putting in the video. A sibling comment has recommended a browser addon to skip them (thanks for crowdsourcing), but it has issues, too. Thanks, though!
- biztos 5y ago
  I also really like today's YouTube and I even pay for it. For me the trick is that I now use it almost exclusively to watch original content made for YouTube. And there's a ton of that stuff, from DIY garage geekouts to language instruction to cooking shows. And eating shows! One of the biggest YouTubers I follow basically just goes around eating stuff.[0] I think YouTube is slowly becoming a major platform for original content, which of course was the original promise before it rose to fame as a copyright violator's safe haven. I love seeing people like Mark Rober[1] combine great ideas with a sense of fun and decent production quality to make this new and insanely democratic form of TV. It's also fascinating to see the production quality increase as people go from hobbyist to professional. Of the five streaming services I pay for, YouTube feels like the best deal. And I could also just not pay for it, and deal with ads. Oh yeah and I really like TikTok too but I only watch it about once a week because time sink. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/user/migrationology https://www.youtube.com/user/migrationology [1]: https://www.youtube.com/user/onemeeeliondollars https://www.youtube.com/user/onemeeeliondollars
  - Touche 5y ago
    How do you find this stuff? YouTube is so full of absolute garbage that's it's a struggle to find something worth watching. I watch painting videos on YouTube but spend way too much time digging.
    - biztos 5y ago
      Some things I find by searching for very specific things, like say YouTubers in Thailand or (lately) modular synthesis which led me to Andrew Huang[0]. Other stuff I get pointed to by friends, eg Mark Rober for his anti theft videos which are hilarious. And some things are YouTube suggestions, the algorithm seems pretty conservative but it has turned up a few good things. There is great stuff out there, I find the amount of garbage I actually see and have to skip over is pretty small these days. [0]: https://youtube.com/c/andrewhuang https://youtube.com/c/andrewhuang
    - atatatat 5y ago
      Cooperate with the suggestions tools.
ehsankia 5y ago
Absolutely, I keep saying this, but TikTok reminds me of early Youtube, pre-monetization. The random homemade videos going viral, people not trying too hard, or trying to hyperoptimize every second of the video. I know it won't last, but I am enjoying it while it lasts.

pm90 5y ago

TikTok already does have ads/monetization.

deanCommie 5y ago

The ads/monetization threshold isn't the major difference, but the remembrance of YouTube in the pre-celbrity/late night era is completely astute. We're in a Golden Age of Tik Tok, and it won't last. We get to enjoy the chaos and caucophony of lots of people getting 15 mins of fame. It's not gonna last :(

Apocryphon 5y ago
Maybe then it'll be Vine 2's turn.

greggman3 5y ago

For me, youtube is better now than at any other time I've used it. My feed is almost entirely very well made talks, and lessons, and tutorials. That they have a 2-3 minute "this video brought to you by ABC" doesn't bother me at all as the content is amazing. Anything I want to know there are 25+ plus different people willing to explain it to me.

wccrawford 5y ago
I've started to get annoyed by the ads for Raid Shadow Legends and Squarespace, and the product placement is getting nuts. I had someone the other day say they didn't think the tool was "sponsored" because the company lent it to them to try, in order to see if they'd use it enough to justify keeping it. Uh, yeah, that's totally sponsored, even if it's only lent. Some of my usual Youtube channels now have 1 or 2 big stop-the-show ads that are unrelated to their content, and then multiple product placement moments that are incredibly obvious. It's really taking away from the content of the shows. I know they have to eat, and producing a lot of content is expensive, but I already pay for YouTube Premium to get rid of ads. And now the ads are infesting the shows anyhow. Edit: I also support my favorite content producers on Patreon as well.
- freebuju 5y ago
  Sucks that you cannot do away with ads even on premium. Might want to check if this sponsored-ads skip tool this can be of help in your circumstance https://github.com/ajayyy/SponsorBlock https://github.com/ajayyy/SponsorBlock
  - wccrawford 5y ago
    Ooh, very interesting. Unfortunately, I think my channels are one step ahead... They usually mix in interesting video in the background while they give their advertisement verbally. So I often can't really skip them without also skipping actual content. But thanks for that!
- pmoriarty 5y ago
  "Some of my usual Youtube channels now have 1 or 2 big stop-the-show ads that are unrelated to their content" Using youtube-dl you can get the videos without ads.
  - wccrawford 5y ago
    I already pay for Youtube Premium, so the ads inserted by Youtube are already gone. These are ads that the content creator themselves are putting in the video. A sibling comment has recommended a browser addon to skip them (thanks for crowdsourcing), but it has issues, too. Thanks, though!
biztos 5y ago
I also really like today's YouTube and I even pay for it. For me the trick is that I now use it almost exclusively to watch original content made for YouTube. And there's a ton of that stuff, from DIY garage geekouts to language instruction to cooking shows. And eating shows! One of the biggest YouTubers I follow basically just goes around eating stuff.[0] I think YouTube is slowly becoming a major platform for original content, which of course was the original promise before it rose to fame as a copyright violator's safe haven. I love seeing people like Mark Rober[1] combine great ideas with a sense of fun and decent production quality to make this new and insanely democratic form of TV. It's also fascinating to see the production quality increase as people go from hobbyist to professional. Of the five streaming services I pay for, YouTube feels like the best deal. And I could also just not pay for it, and deal with ads. Oh yeah and I really like TikTok too but I only watch it about once a week because time sink. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/user/migrationology https://www.youtube.com/user/migrationology [1]: https://www.youtube.com/user/onemeeeliondollars https://www.youtube.com/user/onemeeeliondollars
- Touche 5y ago
  How do you find this stuff? YouTube is so full of absolute garbage that's it's a struggle to find something worth watching. I watch painting videos on YouTube but spend way too much time digging.
  - biztos 5y ago
    Some things I find by searching for very specific things, like say YouTubers in Thailand or (lately) modular synthesis which led me to Andrew Huang[0]. Other stuff I get pointed to by friends, eg Mark Rober for his anti theft videos which are hilarious. And some things are YouTube suggestions, the algorithm seems pretty conservative but it has turned up a few good things. There is great stuff out there, I find the amount of garbage I actually see and have to skip over is pretty small these days. [0]: https://youtube.com/c/andrewhuang https://youtube.com/c/andrewhuang
  - atatatat 5y ago
    Cooperate with the suggestions tools.

ehsankia 5y ago

Absolutely, I keep saying this, but TikTok reminds me of early Youtube, pre-monetization. The random homemade videos going viral, people not trying too hard, or trying to hyperoptimize every second of the video. I know it won't last, but I am enjoying it while it lasts.