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I'm skeptical of most "we switched from X to Y" posts, but the thought process here seems pretty solid. * They had a much harder time hiring mobile developers

I'm skeptical of most "we switched from X to Y" posts, but the thought process here seems pretty solid. * They had a much harder time hiring mobile developers than web developers, and per-person productivity was also lower * They prototyped an app before committing to a new technology * Similarly, they tested a change to the existing app before switching * They specifically invested time to cross-train people, and tested how long it took web developers to get productive on React Native * They interviewed Airbnb, who had also invested a lot of effort into React Native before dropping it * At each step, they considered whether to rewrite from scratch or incrementally switch that part of the codebase This makes a lot of sense. It shows the kind of careful consideration we should apply when seriously considering switching to a new technology.

deepsun 5y ago
>They had a much harder time hiring mobile developers than web developers... It's not hard at all to find mobile devs, just offer more money. Mobile devs cost more, that's right. But I think that's because mobile development is significantly harder (personal first-hand experience).
EvilEy3 5y ago
> They had a much harder time hiring mobile developers than web developers, and per-person productivity was also lower That's what happens when you pay peanuts.
- intev 5y ago
  Oh? You know everyone's salaries?
  - EvilEy3 5y ago
    I don't see shortage complaints from FAANG companies.
    - intev 5y ago
      Are FAANG companies the median for tech salaries? If that's the case most companies are doomed. It's pretty common knowledge that FAANG pays really well. One of the big reasons people work there are for the extremely generous salaries. Everyone else is underpaying if you're comparing them to FAANG. Also by your definition, Apple and Amazon are notoriously cheap too. Really you're only comparing to Google, Facebook and Microsoft (less so).
      - EvilEy3 5y ago
        > Are FAANG companies the median for tech salaries? If that's the case most companies are doomed. FAANG salary is the median for good developer salary, yes. After all, why would you work for less if you're good enough? > Everyone else is underpaying if you're comparing them to FAANG. You're getting somewhere. > Also by your definition, Apple and Amazon are notoriously cheap too. Pretty sure they're paying bigger salary than coinbase does. At least their product is more interesting than crypto dashboard, maybe that's how they compensate for "shitty" pay.
        intev 5y ago
        I just compared their salaries on glassdoor. There seems to be quite a few data points. Their salary seems to be higher than Microsoft but lower than FB. Overall, comparable. Where are you getting this Coinbase is paying everyone "shitty" pay? I hope you have something...but I'm not holding my breadth
- frakkingcylons 5y ago
  Coinbase does not pay peanuts, look at the compensation: https://www.levels.fyi/comp.html?track=Software%20Engineer&search=coinbase https://www.levels.fyi/comp.html?track=Software%20Engineer&s... It's definitely competitive pay.
jessepollak 5y ago
This is an excellent summary of our approach - thanks for writing it up :)

deepsun 5y ago

>They had a much harder time hiring mobile developers than web developers... It's not hard at all to find mobile devs, just offer more money. Mobile devs cost more, that's right. But I think that's because mobile development is significantly harder (personal first-hand experience).

EvilEy3 5y ago

> They had a much harder time hiring mobile developers than web developers, and per-person productivity was also lower That's what happens when you pay peanuts.

intev 5y ago
Oh? You know everyone's salaries?
- EvilEy3 5y ago
  I don't see shortage complaints from FAANG companies.
  - intev 5y ago
    Are FAANG companies the median for tech salaries? If that's the case most companies are doomed. It's pretty common knowledge that FAANG pays really well. One of the big reasons people work there are for the extremely generous salaries. Everyone else is underpaying if you're comparing them to FAANG. Also by your definition, Apple and Amazon are notoriously cheap too. Really you're only comparing to Google, Facebook and Microsoft (less so).
    - EvilEy3 5y ago
      > Are FAANG companies the median for tech salaries? If that's the case most companies are doomed. FAANG salary is the median for good developer salary, yes. After all, why would you work for less if you're good enough? > Everyone else is underpaying if you're comparing them to FAANG. You're getting somewhere. > Also by your definition, Apple and Amazon are notoriously cheap too. Pretty sure they're paying bigger salary than coinbase does. At least their product is more interesting than crypto dashboard, maybe that's how they compensate for "shitty" pay.
      - intev 5y ago
        I just compared their salaries on glassdoor. There seems to be quite a few data points. Their salary seems to be higher than Microsoft but lower than FB. Overall, comparable. Where are you getting this Coinbase is paying everyone "shitty" pay? I hope you have something...but I'm not holding my breadth
frakkingcylons 5y ago
Coinbase does not pay peanuts, look at the compensation: https://www.levels.fyi/comp.html?track=Software%20Engineer&search=coinbase https://www.levels.fyi/comp.html?track=Software%20Engineer&s... It's definitely competitive pay.

jessepollak 5y ago

This is an excellent summary of our approach - thanks for writing it up :)