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Ah yes, so the chinese were "given" the designs to other military aircrafts which is why their fighter jets look identical to those from the USA and Russia? [0

Ah yes, so the chinese were "given" the designs to other military aircrafts which is why their fighter jets look identical to those from the USA and Russia? [0]https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/g23303922/china-copycat-air-force/ https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/g23303922...

monocasa 5y ago
...those don't look identical. It lists the J-20 as a knock off of the F-22, and you can even tell from the picture they use that they're radically different airframes.
- aardvarkr 5y ago
  Please explain the differences that you see because the philosophy looks pretty damn identical. Aside from the obvious addition of forward canards on the J-20, the two aircraft look nearly identical thanks to China’s access to classified F-22 development data. They were caught stealing from Lockheed Martin data on the F-22 program with a successful conviction in 2016
  - monocasa 5y ago
    The wings have a completely different shape, the intakes are completely different, it doesn't have horizontal stabilizers, etc. I could go on.
tfcata 5y ago
You are blatantly lying that a hexagon looks identical to a rectangle. Shameful.
- aardvarkr 5y ago
  Ah yes, all of the design similarities are just cosmetic, right? They certainly haven’t had their spies convicted of stealing American aviation technology ever?
  - tfcata 5y ago
    If you ever read the slightest about aerodynamics you wouldn't make such blatantly wrong, ignorant, arrogant claims that the J-20 and F-22 are 'identical'. They are of the most fundamentally different layouts in designing a jet. Do everyone a favor and shut up.
    - dang 5y ago
      Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for. Personal attacks are particularly not ok. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: since your account has been using HN exclusively for this, I've banned it. That's not an allowed use of HN, regardless of what you're for or against.
  - dang 5y ago
    Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

monocasa 5y ago

...those don't look identical. It lists the J-20 as a knock off of the F-22, and you can even tell from the picture they use that they're radically different airframes.

aardvarkr 5y ago
Please explain the differences that you see because the philosophy looks pretty damn identical. Aside from the obvious addition of forward canards on the J-20, the two aircraft look nearly identical thanks to China’s access to classified F-22 development data. They were caught stealing from Lockheed Martin data on the F-22 program with a successful conviction in 2016
- monocasa 5y ago
  The wings have a completely different shape, the intakes are completely different, it doesn't have horizontal stabilizers, etc. I could go on.

tfcata 5y ago

You are blatantly lying that a hexagon looks identical to a rectangle. Shameful.

aardvarkr 5y ago
Ah yes, all of the design similarities are just cosmetic, right? They certainly haven’t had their spies convicted of stealing American aviation technology ever?
- tfcata 5y ago
  If you ever read the slightest about aerodynamics you wouldn't make such blatantly wrong, ignorant, arrogant claims that the J-20 and F-22 are 'identical'. They are of the most fundamentally different layouts in designing a jet. Do everyone a favor and shut up.
  - dang 5y ago
    Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for. Personal attacks are particularly not ok. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: since your account has been using HN exclusively for this, I've banned it. That's not an allowed use of HN, regardless of what you're for or against.
- dang 5y ago
  Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html