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Everyone stands in the shoulders of those who came before, and that is a good thing. The US didn't invent physics, didn't invent gunpowder, oil, math, textiles

Everyone stands in the shoulders of those who came before, and that is a good thing. The US didn't invent physics, didn't invent gunpowder, oil, math, textiles, ROCKETS, etc. But they did "acquire" them all, somehow. > China runs the largest IP theft program in the world. Most IP has been given to them by "businessmen" trying to gain and edge and betting wrong. That is not theft, if anything, is stupidity. To the degree China has stolen trade secrets, do you really think no other country has a corporate spy program? Do you not know who the biggest ip "thief" in the world is?

aardvarkr 5y ago
Ah yes, so the chinese were "given" the designs to other military aircrafts which is why their fighter jets look identical to those from the USA and Russia? [0]https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/g23303922/china-copycat-air-force/ https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/g23303922...
- monocasa 5y ago
  ...those don't look identical. It lists the J-20 as a knock off of the F-22, and you can even tell from the picture they use that they're radically different airframes.
  - aardvarkr 5y ago
    Please explain the differences that you see because the philosophy looks pretty damn identical. Aside from the obvious addition of forward canards on the J-20, the two aircraft look nearly identical thanks to China’s access to classified F-22 development data. They were caught stealing from Lockheed Martin data on the F-22 program with a successful conviction in 2016
    - monocasa 5y ago
      The wings have a completely different shape, the intakes are completely different, it doesn't have horizontal stabilizers, etc. I could go on.
- tfcata 5y ago
  You are blatantly lying that a hexagon looks identical to a rectangle. Shameful.
  - aardvarkr 5y ago
    Ah yes, all of the design similarities are just cosmetic, right? They certainly haven’t had their spies convicted of stealing American aviation technology ever?
    - tfcata 5y ago
      If you ever read the slightest about aerodynamics you wouldn't make such blatantly wrong, ignorant, arrogant claims that the J-20 and F-22 are 'identical'. They are of the most fundamentally different layouts in designing a jet. Do everyone a favor and shut up.
      - dang 5y ago
        Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for. Personal attacks are particularly not ok. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: since your account has been using HN exclusively for this, I've banned it. That's not an allowed use of HN, regardless of what you're for or against.
    - dang 5y ago
      Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

aardvarkr 5y ago

Ah yes, so the chinese were "given" the designs to other military aircrafts which is why their fighter jets look identical to those from the USA and Russia? [0]https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/g23303922/china-copycat-air-force/ https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/g23303922...

monocasa 5y ago
...those don't look identical. It lists the J-20 as a knock off of the F-22, and you can even tell from the picture they use that they're radically different airframes.
- aardvarkr 5y ago
  Please explain the differences that you see because the philosophy looks pretty damn identical. Aside from the obvious addition of forward canards on the J-20, the two aircraft look nearly identical thanks to China’s access to classified F-22 development data. They were caught stealing from Lockheed Martin data on the F-22 program with a successful conviction in 2016
  - monocasa 5y ago
    The wings have a completely different shape, the intakes are completely different, it doesn't have horizontal stabilizers, etc. I could go on.
tfcata 5y ago
You are blatantly lying that a hexagon looks identical to a rectangle. Shameful.
- aardvarkr 5y ago
  Ah yes, all of the design similarities are just cosmetic, right? They certainly haven’t had their spies convicted of stealing American aviation technology ever?
  - tfcata 5y ago
    If you ever read the slightest about aerodynamics you wouldn't make such blatantly wrong, ignorant, arrogant claims that the J-20 and F-22 are 'identical'. They are of the most fundamentally different layouts in designing a jet. Do everyone a favor and shut up.
    - dang 5y ago
      Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for. Personal attacks are particularly not ok. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: since your account has been using HN exclusively for this, I've banned it. That's not an allowed use of HN, regardless of what you're for or against.
  - dang 5y ago
    Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html