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You don't seem to understand the difference between thought and conduct. If he was harassing "anyone", there are already many laws and many lawyers waiting to t

You don't seem to understand the difference between thought and conduct. If he was harassing "anyone", there are already many laws and many lawyers waiting to take everything he owns from him. The courts are there exactly for that reason. If it's his viewpoints people have a problem with, as seems to be the case by the ample evidence directly from the people demanding his job citing the contents of his book even before having spent one day with the guy, then his actions were not ever in question. So again I ask you in faint hopes you don't keep evading the question, are we a nation ruled by laws or a nation ruled by mob?

detaro 5y ago
If that's the two options: ruled by laws. As you said, the courts are there if what Apple did was against the law. It's just a pretty useless dichotomy, because the law leaves lots of room for things to happen inside its boundaries. And that's by design. And again, the original point is not about good or bad, but that this is not new. You got excluded in corporate places for the wrong thoughts (if you shared them too loudly) before people went on and on about "safe spaces". It just was different things. And as such I find complaints about them being some new horrible thing unconvincing.
- insert_coin 5y ago
  I don't have a problem with what Apple did, they should be able to fire anyone for any reason without explanation at any time. Apple took the easy way out to avoid more short term damage, and that was their decision to make. > because the law leaves lots of room for things to happen inside its boundaries. Then we are not a nation of laws, because the room is there for a reason. Judges and juries are there for a reason, to decide how much room is necessary as we cannot police thought, and we shouldn't try. > And again, the original point is not about good or bad, but that this is not new. You got excluded in corporate places for the wrong thoughts (if you shared them too loudly) before people went on and on about "safe spaces". It just was different things. And as such I find complaints about them being some new horrible thing unconvincing. Why are you fine with lgbtq being excluded from jobs? You can't have it both ways, two wrongs don't make a right. The law should be the bar, the only bar, not mob anger.

detaro 5y ago

If that's the two options: ruled by laws. As you said, the courts are there if what Apple did was against the law. It's just a pretty useless dichotomy, because the law leaves lots of room for things to happen inside its boundaries. And that's by design. And again, the original point is not about good or bad, but that this is not new. You got excluded in corporate places for the wrong thoughts (if you shared them too loudly) before people went on and on about "safe spaces". It just was different things. And as such I find complaints about them being some new horrible thing unconvincing.

insert_coin 5y ago
I don't have a problem with what Apple did, they should be able to fire anyone for any reason without explanation at any time. Apple took the easy way out to avoid more short term damage, and that was their decision to make. > because the law leaves lots of room for things to happen inside its boundaries. Then we are not a nation of laws, because the room is there for a reason. Judges and juries are there for a reason, to decide how much room is necessary as we cannot police thought, and we shouldn't try. > And again, the original point is not about good or bad, but that this is not new. You got excluded in corporate places for the wrong thoughts (if you shared them too loudly) before people went on and on about "safe spaces". It just was different things. And as such I find complaints about them being some new horrible thing unconvincing. Why are you fine with lgbtq being excluded from jobs? You can't have it both ways, two wrongs don't make a right. The law should be the bar, the only bar, not mob anger.