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There is an escape, for now: stop connecting things to the internet when they don't need to be. Of course, there is nothing stopping the industry from replacing

There is an escape, for now: stop connecting things to the internet when they don't need to be. Of course, there is nothing stopping the industry from replacing HDMI with a standard that must include an internet connection...

pdimitar 5y ago
They already did, I know that HDMI 2.0 includes Ethernet and if the host (computer or TV stick) has internet it will transparently share it with the TV which can then happily install updates and show you ads.
- mywittyname 5y ago
  Do they make HDMI prophylactics yet?
  - pdimitar 5y ago
    No clue but I'd pay for an HDMI device that ignores/kills Ethernet traffic.
    - smoldesu 5y ago
      Most HDMI cables don't even have the pins required to wire Ethernet over them.
- detaro 5y ago
  Can you name any combination of devices that actually does this? I've never seen an implementation of it, in over a decade of this being an optional part of HDMI.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  > I know that HDMI 2.0 includes Ethernet and if the host (computer or TV stick) has internet it will transparently share it with the TV Technically, you can encode whatever the hell you want over an HDMI cable. Whether or not the terminating end is able to receive/interpret it is a different story, however. The cost of implementing end-to-end-Ethernet-over-HDMI is so high that it would almost certainly be prohibitive to modern production, much less the production capabilities of 2013, when the spec for HDMI 2.0 was released.
  - pdimitar 5y ago
    https://www.amazon.com/2-Pack-Syntech-18Gbps-Ethernet-Compatible/dp/B08JLSXTXB https://www.amazon.com/2-Pack-Syntech-18Gbps-Ethernet-Compat... 2x such 6ft cables for $8.50. Sure, it's prohibitive, yeah. ;)
r00fus 5y ago
Amazon Sidewalk is well positioned to remove your pesky connectivity preferences.
- asdff 5y ago
  time to line my home in lead
MrMember 5y ago
At some point the price will be worth it to put cell modems in almost everything. A permanent internet connection for all of your devices/appliances that can't be disabled without putting it in a Faraday cage or physically destroying the modem.

pdimitar 5y ago

They already did, I know that HDMI 2.0 includes Ethernet and if the host (computer or TV stick) has internet it will transparently share it with the TV which can then happily install updates and show you ads.

mywittyname 5y ago
Do they make HDMI prophylactics yet?
- pdimitar 5y ago
  No clue but I'd pay for an HDMI device that ignores/kills Ethernet traffic.
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Most HDMI cables don't even have the pins required to wire Ethernet over them.
detaro 5y ago
Can you name any combination of devices that actually does this? I've never seen an implementation of it, in over a decade of this being an optional part of HDMI.
smoldesu 5y ago
> I know that HDMI 2.0 includes Ethernet and if the host (computer or TV stick) has internet it will transparently share it with the TV Technically, you can encode whatever the hell you want over an HDMI cable. Whether or not the terminating end is able to receive/interpret it is a different story, however. The cost of implementing end-to-end-Ethernet-over-HDMI is so high that it would almost certainly be prohibitive to modern production, much less the production capabilities of 2013, when the spec for HDMI 2.0 was released.
- pdimitar 5y ago
  https://www.amazon.com/2-Pack-Syntech-18Gbps-Ethernet-Compatible/dp/B08JLSXTXB https://www.amazon.com/2-Pack-Syntech-18Gbps-Ethernet-Compat... 2x such 6ft cables for $8.50. Sure, it's prohibitive, yeah. ;)

r00fus 5y ago

Amazon Sidewalk is well positioned to remove your pesky connectivity preferences.

asdff 5y ago
time to line my home in lead

MrMember 5y ago

At some point the price will be worth it to put cell modems in almost everything. A permanent internet connection for all of your devices/appliances that can't be disabled without putting it in a Faraday cage or physically destroying the modem.