Ah, right, good point. The first time is about the destination, perhaps more than the journey. Although with further thought, in those scenarios, there is a met

Ah, right, good point. The first time is about the destination, perhaps more than the journey. Although with further thought, in those scenarios, there is a meta-journey of finding the way to the top (like difficulties of getting resources, or finding paths, etc), which is probably the real journey that first time around.