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Having read a bit about it, my position is something like: - Experiments are way too common and mostly have useless/unusable outcomes. - Ethical standards are
by keiferski 6y ago
Having read a bit about it, my position is something like:
- Experiments are way too common and mostly have useless/unusable outcomes.
- Ethical standards are basically nonexistent.
- Limited animal testing for serious human conditions (cancer, disease, etc.) is justifiable if great care is taken to maximize the benefits and minimize animal suffering.
- reureu 6y agoIn the cases where animal testing is justifiable, I would love to see us start funding care for the remainder of the animal's natural life as part of the grant that funds the original research (at least in the cases where the research itself doesn't cause irreparable suffering or risk exposure of some novel pathogen). At the height of covid, there were a few pigs that were test subjects for ventilators who, after the experiments ended, were sent to an animal sanctuary. I wish we could cut down on animal research by, say, 90% and the remaining 10% could have similar outcomes as those pigs.
- david-gpu 6y agoI am also all for protecting animals... until grandma is sick and could be cured only if we experiment a little more on rats. When that happens the life of a rat or a million looks disposable.
- keiferski 6y agoThe thing is, the overwhelming majority of animal testing is not for saving grandma. It's for testing a new brand of makeup.
- rmah 6y agoI'd rather a thousand cute bunnies go blind (or worse) than one woman's eyesight be harmed by dangerous makeup.
- newsbinator 6y agoOn that I can easily disagree. I'd rather we all say: "this makeup cannot be guaranteed to be safe- either outlaw it, skip it, or take your chances" and keep the bunnies alive and unharmed. It's the medical breakthroughs where I get uncertain. Cosmetics be damned.
- pvaldes 6y ago> keep the bunnies alive Sounds nice, but in the real life those lab bunnies wouldn't even have been breed so they aren't alive in fact
- meristohm 6y agoIs it okay to not get everything we want? We have limited resources, especially if your care about humanity (or life in general) continuing on for awhile. I for one enjoy thinking about life thousands, millions of years hence, understanding and accepting that this book will probably close.
- pvaldes 6y ago> Animal testing is bad and must be stopped >> Here is some animal testing that is good. Could save lives. > This is not true animal testing. Most animal testing is for lipsticks. I read it in a pamphlet. If this sounds familiar to you is because is a classic Not true scotsman's fallacy.