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…in those over 80… the study says for those only reading the title.

sp3000 5y ago
I agree that is an important point. While that was the population that was tested, I think it is OK to infer that there would be a similar response to those under 80 as well.
- ipaddr 5y ago
  We can hope and guess it will work at the same rate but because the response to covid between the youngest and the oldest have been so different we would have to assume it's probably different to some degree.
thepangolino 5y ago
Those over 80 make up half of the covid death count. I'd say that's pretty encouraging.
- sharken 5y ago
  India seems to be a special case, as only 4.8% of the population is above 65. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/04/will-india-s-devastating-covid-19-surge-provide-data-clear-its-death-paradox https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/04/will-india-s-devasta... Apart from India it seems that Japan should take notes, it's quite a surprise to me that only 1% of the population has been fully vaccinated. No wonder they are reluctant to let spectators be present for the olympics. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/05/only-1-japan-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19-it-ready-olympics https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/05/only-1-japan-fully-v...
  - elif 5y ago
    I was just watching on NHK that the N501Y mutated strain in Japan is putting healthy 30-60 year olds in hospital care 66% more often. They are actively cancelling Olympic training events and reducing paralympic events, and only 10% of Tokyo residents surveyed said they are happy the games are going to continue as planned.
    - sharken 5y ago
      Yes it doesn't look good for Japan which also have one of the oldest populations in the world. In Denmark the English B.1.1.7 variant needed about 3 weeks to become dominant, though it's a bit unclear which variant will become the dominant one in Japan. Some additional links https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/COVID-variants-swamp-India-and-Japan-hospitals-5-things-to-know https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/COVID-variants... https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/scientific-brief-emerging-variants.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br... And a link that gives some insight as to why Japan have vaccinated so few. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/04/why-is-japan-failing-so-badly-vaccinations/%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions...
      - andrekandre 5y ago
        non-amp link https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/04/why-is-japan-failing-so-badly-vaccinations/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/04/why-is-ja...
  - postalrat 5y ago
    4.8% of India is still 65 million people.
  - _nalply 5y ago
    Somewhere I read that Covid deaths are underreported. This is in the chaotic times understandable even if unfortunate. It's said it happened everywhere, even in the USA and in Europe, and the real rates are somewhere between 1.5 times to 10 times the reported rates. And Japan seems to be an outlier with massively underreported deaths. Probably because many elderly died alone at home and where interred or incinerated without further testing.
    - brohee 5y ago
      The Economist estimates the current victim count at 10M±3M. This is really not helped by the disorganization in some countries and the utterly fraudulent data reported by others (Russia, Egypt...) https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-been-7m-13m-excess-deaths-worldwide-during-the-pandemic https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-bee...
    - fomine3 5y ago
      See excess mortality rate.

I agree that is an important point. While that was the population that was tested, I think it is OK to infer that there would be a similar response to those under 80 as well.

ipaddr 5y ago
We can hope and guess it will work at the same rate but because the response to covid between the youngest and the oldest have been so different we would have to assume it's probably different to some degree.

thepangolino 5y ago

Those over 80 make up half of the covid death count. I'd say that's pretty encouraging.

sharken 5y ago
India seems to be a special case, as only 4.8% of the population is above 65. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/04/will-india-s-devastating-covid-19-surge-provide-data-clear-its-death-paradox https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/04/will-india-s-devasta... Apart from India it seems that Japan should take notes, it's quite a surprise to me that only 1% of the population has been fully vaccinated. No wonder they are reluctant to let spectators be present for the olympics. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/05/only-1-japan-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19-it-ready-olympics https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/05/only-1-japan-fully-v...
- elif 5y ago
  I was just watching on NHK that the N501Y mutated strain in Japan is putting healthy 30-60 year olds in hospital care 66% more often. They are actively cancelling Olympic training events and reducing paralympic events, and only 10% of Tokyo residents surveyed said they are happy the games are going to continue as planned.
  - sharken 5y ago
    Yes it doesn't look good for Japan which also have one of the oldest populations in the world. In Denmark the English B.1.1.7 variant needed about 3 weeks to become dominant, though it's a bit unclear which variant will become the dominant one in Japan. Some additional links https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/COVID-variants-swamp-India-and-Japan-hospitals-5-things-to-know https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/COVID-variants... https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/scientific-brief-emerging-variants.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br... And a link that gives some insight as to why Japan have vaccinated so few. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/04/why-is-japan-failing-so-badly-vaccinations/%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions...
    - andrekandre 5y ago
      non-amp link https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/04/why-is-japan-failing-so-badly-vaccinations/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/04/why-is-ja...
- postalrat 5y ago
  4.8% of India is still 65 million people.
- _nalply 5y ago
  Somewhere I read that Covid deaths are underreported. This is in the chaotic times understandable even if unfortunate. It's said it happened everywhere, even in the USA and in Europe, and the real rates are somewhere between 1.5 times to 10 times the reported rates. And Japan seems to be an outlier with massively underreported deaths. Probably because many elderly died alone at home and where interred or incinerated without further testing.
  - brohee 5y ago
    The Economist estimates the current victim count at 10M±3M. This is really not helped by the disorganization in some countries and the utterly fraudulent data reported by others (Russia, Egypt...) https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-been-7m-13m-excess-deaths-worldwide-during-the-pandemic https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-bee...
  - fomine3 5y ago
    See excess mortality rate.