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You must be new here. The flight logs of Jeffrey Epstein's jet were obtained via subpoena and published in the press and not a single indictment was brought for

You must be new here. The flight logs of Jeffrey Epstein's jet were obtained via subpoena and published in the press and not a single indictment was brought forth from it. Every time there's a mass shooting we hear the shooter was "known to the FBI". The FBI has better things to do than harass Elbakyan, but it won't do them.

TechBro8615 5y ago
The FBI is a political organization and domestic spying machine. The US is a police state.
- 0x5f3759df-i 5y ago
  The same US that wouldn't even enforce their mask mandates is a police state? This is like running around and calling anything slightly bad a country does Nazi Germany. Nuance matters, think about the world a little more complexly.
  - Sleepytime 5y ago
    Selective enforcement of laws to political ends is a hallmark of a police state. Also the US has the highest prison population per capita. If it quacks like a duck...
    - 0x5f3759df-i 5y ago
      And was there some great selective enforcement of the mask mandate to target a political group and lock them up? No. It wasn't enforced by the state at all.
      - Sleepytime 5y ago
        And yet they have no hesitation to use the entire national security apparatus to chase a foreign national around the world for publishing some scientific papers.
        0x5f3759df-i 5y ago
        An American law enforcement agency requesting data from an American company is a far cry from "chasing a foreign national around the world". I think it's a waste of time as much as anyone else but Sci-hub is clearly against US law. Just because you disagree with the value of a law enforcement action doesn't mean you are living in a "police state"
        CRConrad 5y ago
        > Sci-hub is clearly against US law. Sci-hub has nothing to do with US law. > Just because you disagree with the value of a law enforcement action doesn't mean you are living in a "police state" Uncritically buying one's national government's claim to global jurisdiction, justifying "law enforcement actions" against foreign citizens in foreign lands in the frigging first place, on the other hand... That seems to indicate some kind of successful indoctrination into a pro-police-state mindset.
    - GeoAtreides 5y ago
      > the highest prison population per capita That's true, but the more horrifying fact is that it has the highest prison population in absolute numbers: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarcera...
Sleepytime 5y ago
Considering the FBI's history of stopping terror attacks that they manufactured[1], I suspect many of those 'known to the FBI' shooters were actually working with the FBI in some capacity or another. [1] https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-terrorism-isis-grave-threats/ https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-te...

TechBro8615 5y ago

The FBI is a political organization and domestic spying machine. The US is a police state.

0x5f3759df-i 5y ago
The same US that wouldn't even enforce their mask mandates is a police state? This is like running around and calling anything slightly bad a country does Nazi Germany. Nuance matters, think about the world a little more complexly.
- Sleepytime 5y ago
  Selective enforcement of laws to political ends is a hallmark of a police state. Also the US has the highest prison population per capita. If it quacks like a duck...
  - 0x5f3759df-i 5y ago
    And was there some great selective enforcement of the mask mandate to target a political group and lock them up? No. It wasn't enforced by the state at all.
    - Sleepytime 5y ago
      And yet they have no hesitation to use the entire national security apparatus to chase a foreign national around the world for publishing some scientific papers.
      - 0x5f3759df-i 5y ago
        An American law enforcement agency requesting data from an American company is a far cry from "chasing a foreign national around the world". I think it's a waste of time as much as anyone else but Sci-hub is clearly against US law. Just because you disagree with the value of a law enforcement action doesn't mean you are living in a "police state"
        CRConrad 5y ago
        > Sci-hub is clearly against US law. Sci-hub has nothing to do with US law. > Just because you disagree with the value of a law enforcement action doesn't mean you are living in a "police state" Uncritically buying one's national government's claim to global jurisdiction, justifying "law enforcement actions" against foreign citizens in foreign lands in the frigging first place, on the other hand... That seems to indicate some kind of successful indoctrination into a pro-police-state mindset.
  - GeoAtreides 5y ago
    > the highest prison population per capita That's true, but the more horrifying fact is that it has the highest prison population in absolute numbers: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarcera...

Sleepytime 5y ago

Considering the FBI's history of stopping terror attacks that they manufactured[1], I suspect many of those 'known to the FBI' shooters were actually working with the FBI in some capacity or another. [1] https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-terrorism-isis-grave-threats/ https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-te...