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Seriously! It's FIVE MILLION. That's "I don't ever have to work again" money. What is wrong with people! Probably they want Mercedes, and Rolexes, and Mont Blan

Seriously! It's FIVE MILLION. That's "I don't ever have to work again" money. What is wrong with people! Probably they want Mercedes, and Rolexes, and Mont Blanc pens and all that showy consumer garbage.

colechristensen 5y ago
The median lifetime earnings in the US is 1.7 million, and that’s equivalent to... $20 an hour or so. 5 million is “never work again” money for a couple of people who want middle class incomes the rest of their lives... it is not really that much when spread over more than a few people.
- showerst 5y ago
  Darkside is likely based in Russia, where lifetime median earnings are much lower.
  - jandrese 5y ago
    They're also going to lose a big chunk of that to money laundering losses. But since it is in Bitcoin it's probably going to appreciate over time. The problem is that if they fuck it up just once the record will be on the blockchain forever and they'll never be safe.
- stickfigure 5y ago
  These people likely do not live in the US. Also, how big do you think the core team is? I would assume they're freezing out anyone who can't identify the culprits.
- SavantIdiot 5y ago
  My friend, you need to [1] travel, and [2] learn a tiny bit about investing. First, you can live like a fucking KING for $2000/mo in southeast asia and most of central/south america. 24k/yr is 208 years. Bonus! The food is awesome, the people are great, the climate is ... nice most of the year, and the pollution is a little awful in the cities, but damn the beaches are gorgeous, and there are loads of them. Second, ETF index funds for DJIA/NASDAQ/SP500, easily clear 5-7% per 5/yrs in BAD times; bluechip/bellweather stocks & municipal funds pay dividends that would easily clear that after taxes. Investing like a grown adult versus /r/stonks are two completely different things. I recommend you hire a CFPA (or RIA) for at least a few years as soon as you can afford it, bonus if you can do it in your 20's, it will at least set you on the right track. Of course, once you get old and medical conditions bankrupt you that's a problem. But then you swan dive off of Machu Picchu and go out in style!!
  - colechristensen 5y ago
    And you need to check your assumptions if you think the likely outcome of extorting five million out of a major piece of infrastructure with your buddies would be collecting dividends on a tropical beach. If you do everything perfectly you have a target painted on your back for life, a group of friends that all want to be the first to save their skins by giving the rest of you up, and a huge chunk of that change given away trying to launder that money well enough that you don’t get caught. Not to mention the foolishness that comes with suddenly finding yourself with a big pile of money which is easy to pretend wouldn’t affect you when there’s no chance of it actually being a challenge you’ll ever have. Your advice to high tech thieves is to hire an accountant? Best to find a job tending bar in a country not too friendly for an extradition and keeping the money under your mattress to hire the best lawyer you could afford to avoid spending the rest of your life in prison hoping that the CIA doesn’t make you disappear.
- FDSGSG 5y ago
  >5 million is “never work again” money for a couple of people who want middle class incomes the rest of their lives This is ignoring the interest
simias 5y ago
$5million spread between an unknown number of people and that need to be laundered before it's turned into Rolexes and Mercedeses. Given the high risks it doesn't sound like a great deal to me especially since competent hackers can usually command a fairly high salary in legit companies.

colechristensen 5y ago

The median lifetime earnings in the US is 1.7 million, and that’s equivalent to... $20 an hour or so. 5 million is “never work again” money for a couple of people who want middle class incomes the rest of their lives... it is not really that much when spread over more than a few people.

showerst 5y ago
Darkside is likely based in Russia, where lifetime median earnings are much lower.
- jandrese 5y ago
  They're also going to lose a big chunk of that to money laundering losses. But since it is in Bitcoin it's probably going to appreciate over time. The problem is that if they fuck it up just once the record will be on the blockchain forever and they'll never be safe.
stickfigure 5y ago
These people likely do not live in the US. Also, how big do you think the core team is? I would assume they're freezing out anyone who can't identify the culprits.
SavantIdiot 5y ago
My friend, you need to [1] travel, and [2] learn a tiny bit about investing. First, you can live like a fucking KING for $2000/mo in southeast asia and most of central/south america. 24k/yr is 208 years. Bonus! The food is awesome, the people are great, the climate is ... nice most of the year, and the pollution is a little awful in the cities, but damn the beaches are gorgeous, and there are loads of them. Second, ETF index funds for DJIA/NASDAQ/SP500, easily clear 5-7% per 5/yrs in BAD times; bluechip/bellweather stocks & municipal funds pay dividends that would easily clear that after taxes. Investing like a grown adult versus /r/stonks are two completely different things. I recommend you hire a CFPA (or RIA) for at least a few years as soon as you can afford it, bonus if you can do it in your 20's, it will at least set you on the right track. Of course, once you get old and medical conditions bankrupt you that's a problem. But then you swan dive off of Machu Picchu and go out in style!!
- colechristensen 5y ago
  And you need to check your assumptions if you think the likely outcome of extorting five million out of a major piece of infrastructure with your buddies would be collecting dividends on a tropical beach. If you do everything perfectly you have a target painted on your back for life, a group of friends that all want to be the first to save their skins by giving the rest of you up, and a huge chunk of that change given away trying to launder that money well enough that you don’t get caught. Not to mention the foolishness that comes with suddenly finding yourself with a big pile of money which is easy to pretend wouldn’t affect you when there’s no chance of it actually being a challenge you’ll ever have. Your advice to high tech thieves is to hire an accountant? Best to find a job tending bar in a country not too friendly for an extradition and keeping the money under your mattress to hire the best lawyer you could afford to avoid spending the rest of your life in prison hoping that the CIA doesn’t make you disappear.
FDSGSG 5y ago
>5 million is “never work again” money for a couple of people who want middle class incomes the rest of their lives This is ignoring the interest

simias 5y ago

$5million spread between an unknown number of people and that need to be laundered before it's turned into Rolexes and Mercedeses. Given the high risks it doesn't sound like a great deal to me especially since competent hackers can usually command a fairly high salary in legit companies.