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Monocultures are always bad, but I don't see any alternative services with this level of ease of use. You're definitely overestimating the technical expertise/

Monocultures are always bad, but I don't see any alternative services with this level of ease of use. You're definitely overestimating the technical expertise/available time of a lot small time admins out there. You don't see bots and spam on those forums either because they are actually using cloudflare, and you're just not seeing the captcha, or because in the backend they're feeding all their posts through akismet (in plain text). I don't think you're considering how many services see your posts, even when you don't trip a captcha. email accounts are trivial to sign up for, especially for bots. I always recommend charging $1 (or local equivalent) for an account, that's a lot harder to fake. My point in all this is that bitching that site is using cloudflare to not have to deal with crap, is a self centered view. Saying "well it never happened to me, so it must never happen" is similarly self absorbed. Maybe consider that your experience is not everyones experience

jjav 5y ago
> My point in all this is that bitching that site is using cloudflare to not have to deal with crap, is a self centered view. Who is serving whom here? If a business thinks it's ok to impose cloudflare inconvenience on me, the customer, for the priviledge of giving them my money, who is self centered here? The simple answer is I'll close the tab and go buy it from a competitor. I'm not playing captcha games to buy something.
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- ehutch79 5y ago
  Why do I feel like you ask to speak to managers a lot?
NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
>prevents a bunch of crap that site operators just don't want to deal with >I don't see any alternative services with this level of ease of use. Both of these boil down to laziness, IMHO. And for how awful they are for half the internet, that's not okay to me. Not as a user or as a developer. When a user requests a site they expect to get the site. When you utterly disregard their utterly reasonable expectation and force them to train someone's ML algorithm for free for a minute or two you utterly destroy the user experience. If that's my experience as a user, your entire site gets an instant 1/10 rating from me. I'll likely leave instantly and never return.

jjav 5y ago

> My point in all this is that bitching that site is using cloudflare to not have to deal with crap, is a self centered view. Who is serving whom here? If a business thinks it's ok to impose cloudflare inconvenience on me, the customer, for the priviledge of giving them my money, who is self centered here? The simple answer is I'll close the tab and go buy it from a competitor. I'm not playing captcha games to buy something.

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ehutch79 5y ago
Why do I feel like you ask to speak to managers a lot?

NaturalPhallacy 5y ago

>prevents a bunch of crap that site operators just don't want to deal with >I don't see any alternative services with this level of ease of use. Both of these boil down to laziness, IMHO. And for how awful they are for half the internet, that's not okay to me. Not as a user or as a developer. When a user requests a site they expect to get the site. When you utterly disregard their utterly reasonable expectation and force them to train someone's ML algorithm for free for a minute or two you utterly destroy the user experience. If that's my experience as a user, your entire site gets an instant 1/10 rating from me. I'll likely leave instantly and never return.