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I've said it before but I hard disagree on this. I would hate my money to go towards ethics in a field where that's not a universal requirement. You have to kno

I've said it before but I hard disagree on this. I would hate my money to go towards ethics in a field where that's not a universal requirement. You have to know algorithms etc to get into anywhere from the red cross to facebook, but not ethics. That would be fine as an optional elective

gloriousternary 5y ago
IMO that's exactly why we need good ethics courses. If ethics isn't treated as a priority in university, it won't be treated as a priority by companies.
mxcrossr 5y ago
Perhaps if you had taken a course on ethics you might recognize the good that comes from something that doesn’t directly lead to financial gain!
- silicon2401 5y ago
  And you can take a look at the ethics of the rich and powerful to see how much financial and non-financial gain comes from being unethical. I'm not at work for fun or to change the world, I work strictly to make money. If facebook or an autonomous fighter jet company offered me an opportunity to do my current job at whatever crazy salaries they pay, I'd start yesterday. If I could press a button and have them change into companies that raise orphan puppies or something (while preserving my salary), I'd press that button yesterday. If I woke up to 10MM in my bank account, I'd retire yesterday. Until one of those scenarios happens, I need a job and the best-paying one I can get. It's easy to talk about professional ethics and choosing good over income on an internet forum when the impact it has on someone else's life has no impact on yours. If I left a FAANG to work for peanuts at some volunteer agency, I suspect you wouldn't be there to chip in when my loved one needs support and suddenly my ethics can't foot the bill like my old salary could. You have no idea the impact a FAANG salary would have on my life and my loved ones', so it's not very thoughtful to suggest that somebody who has to prioritize financial gain is unable to see good other than financial gain.
toomanybeersies 5y ago
Maybe I'm an idealist, but university should be more than learning algorithms so that you can pass a coding test and get a job. As others have already commented, if you want to learn work skills, go to a trade school.

gloriousternary 5y ago

IMO that's exactly why we need good ethics courses. If ethics isn't treated as a priority in university, it won't be treated as a priority by companies.

mxcrossr 5y ago

Perhaps if you had taken a course on ethics you might recognize the good that comes from something that doesn’t directly lead to financial gain!

silicon2401 5y ago
And you can take a look at the ethics of the rich and powerful to see how much financial and non-financial gain comes from being unethical. I'm not at work for fun or to change the world, I work strictly to make money. If facebook or an autonomous fighter jet company offered me an opportunity to do my current job at whatever crazy salaries they pay, I'd start yesterday. If I could press a button and have them change into companies that raise orphan puppies or something (while preserving my salary), I'd press that button yesterday. If I woke up to 10MM in my bank account, I'd retire yesterday. Until one of those scenarios happens, I need a job and the best-paying one I can get. It's easy to talk about professional ethics and choosing good over income on an internet forum when the impact it has on someone else's life has no impact on yours. If I left a FAANG to work for peanuts at some volunteer agency, I suspect you wouldn't be there to chip in when my loved one needs support and suddenly my ethics can't foot the bill like my old salary could. You have no idea the impact a FAANG salary would have on my life and my loved ones', so it's not very thoughtful to suggest that somebody who has to prioritize financial gain is unable to see good other than financial gain.

toomanybeersies 5y ago

Maybe I'm an idealist, but university should be more than learning algorithms so that you can pass a coding test and get a job. As others have already commented, if you want to learn work skills, go to a trade school.