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This is an egregious strawman of gp’s comment. Gp plainly specified that they mean to distinguish between people of Chinese descent and CCP supporters. And ther

This is an egregious strawman of gp’s comment. Gp plainly specified that they mean to distinguish between people of Chinese descent and CCP supporters. And there’s really no other way to play it if you oppose the CCP’s behavior and vision of international order. The Japan example is ultimately a bad comparison. On the American side, it was much more transitory and contained narrative. On the counterparty side, the CCP is being much more openly hostile and normalizing atrocious, anachronistic state behavior. Edit to add: Your closing attitude betrays a lot. If you are convinced in advance that American society writ large is determined to hate Asians, that is what you will contort your view to see. Further telling you ignored the data gp presented.

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Bukhmanizer 5y ago
> Gp plainly specified that they mean to distinguish between people of Chinese descent and CCP supporters. No, they plainly specified that they wanted to distinguish between other Asians and Chinese, and of the Chinese between CCP and non-CCP supporters. But in another comment they note that the majority of Chinese are CCP supporters anyway. Let me ask, what do you think the end effect of this “racial distinguishing” is? What do we do once we’ve identified the “problematic ones”? How would such a system be implemented? Anyone could just claim to be non- Chinese/CCP supporters. Perhaps, a tattoo?
- klmadfejno 5y ago
  Obviously its by not assuming someone is a CCP supporter unless they voice this opinion. I did not say anything to the effect of harm or violence against people who support the CCP. But I think a stronger level of national comfort discussing the CCP as a hostile state would be beneficial. My thesis is this: a growing population of Americans believe the CCP is hostile. A very small minority of Americans are violent and act on appearance alone. A band of thugs should not get to set the tone that America is becoming racist against Asians. The reality is that a nation state is growing in moral and geopolitical transgressions, and that is what people are upset about. You don't need to profile anyone. But if someone says "I hate the CCP" and harasses a Korean person. That person is awful, but it doesn't make this a collective struggle. The presence of racists does not define a cultural consensus that hatred of asians is growing. If there's a 100% in hate crimes against asians, and a 10000% person increase in negative feelings towards the CCP, I guarantee you, nobody will feel more hostile towards the CCP that non-CCP aligned asians.

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Bukhmanizer 5y ago

> Gp plainly specified that they mean to distinguish between people of Chinese descent and CCP supporters. No, they plainly specified that they wanted to distinguish between other Asians and Chinese, and of the Chinese between CCP and non-CCP supporters. But in another comment they note that the majority of Chinese are CCP supporters anyway. Let me ask, what do you think the end effect of this “racial distinguishing” is? What do we do once we’ve identified the “problematic ones”? How would such a system be implemented? Anyone could just claim to be non- Chinese/CCP supporters. Perhaps, a tattoo?

klmadfejno 5y ago
Obviously its by not assuming someone is a CCP supporter unless they voice this opinion. I did not say anything to the effect of harm or violence against people who support the CCP. But I think a stronger level of national comfort discussing the CCP as a hostile state would be beneficial. My thesis is this: a growing population of Americans believe the CCP is hostile. A very small minority of Americans are violent and act on appearance alone. A band of thugs should not get to set the tone that America is becoming racist against Asians. The reality is that a nation state is growing in moral and geopolitical transgressions, and that is what people are upset about. You don't need to profile anyone. But if someone says "I hate the CCP" and harasses a Korean person. That person is awful, but it doesn't make this a collective struggle. The presence of racists does not define a cultural consensus that hatred of asians is growing. If there's a 100% in hate crimes against asians, and a 10000% person increase in negative feelings towards the CCP, I guarantee you, nobody will feel more hostile towards the CCP that non-CCP aligned asians.