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The fact that multiple people very close to Trump (Manafort, Stone, Gates, Flynn), both personally and operational, met with Russian intelligence agents and ass

The fact that multiple people very close to Trump (Manafort, Stone, Gates, Flynn), both personally and operational, met with Russian intelligence agents and assets helps the argument that the DOJ should be looking into Trump himself.

sthnblllII 5y ago
>the DOJ should be looking into Trump himself. Anyone still trying to stir up this nonsense partisan battle is just distracting from the recent major world events.
- sk1459 5y ago
  Contextualizing events with the knowledge that the FBI has shown itself to be a modern NKVD and the “intelligentsia” in journalism are happy to be mouthpieces of the US oligarchy actually saves you a lot of confusion. Being lost in the moment of a blizzard of “crises” that really aren’t is intellectually paralyzing. Probably intentionally so.
mc32 5y ago
Hmm, should they likewise look into J Kerry meeting with foreign diplomats whilst not being in the then current administration too?
- gebruikersnaam 5y ago
  Only if he pretended to represent the US administration. Did he do that? Otherwise it's just a private citizen meeting with foreign diplomats, which happens all the time and there's nothing nefarious about that.
  - mc32 5y ago
    Things like these: https://nypost.com/2021/04/26/iran-foreign-minister-says-john-kerry-met-with-him-during-trump-years/ https://nypost.com/2021/04/26/iran-foreign-minister-says-joh... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-pompeo/pompeo-slams-kerry-for-inappropriate-meetings-with-iran-officials-idUSKCN1LU2NY https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-pompeo/pompeo-sl... Maybe it's all politicking, but then if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander.
    - gebruikersnaam 5y ago
      The NY Post isn't a credible source, sorry. If Pompeo had evidence of Kerry having illegal talks, he had the opportunity to provide this evidence to the FBI, seeing as he was part of the administration at the time. Instead he chose to 'slam' Kerry during a news conference. But still no answer to the question if Kerry pretended to represent the US government, which would have been illegal.
      - busymom0 5y ago
        > The NY Post isn't a credible source, sorry. That's the equivalent of an ad-hominen attack.
- delecti 5y ago
  Knowing nothing about that situation except how you've just described it, of course.
- runjake 5y ago
  Sure, if it is warranted. I am not partisan. I presume you do not mean while he was acting SecState.

sthnblllII 5y ago

>the DOJ should be looking into Trump himself. Anyone still trying to stir up this nonsense partisan battle is just distracting from the recent major world events.

sk1459 5y ago
Contextualizing events with the knowledge that the FBI has shown itself to be a modern NKVD and the “intelligentsia” in journalism are happy to be mouthpieces of the US oligarchy actually saves you a lot of confusion. Being lost in the moment of a blizzard of “crises” that really aren’t is intellectually paralyzing. Probably intentionally so.

mc32 5y ago

Hmm, should they likewise look into J Kerry meeting with foreign diplomats whilst not being in the then current administration too?

gebruikersnaam 5y ago
Only if he pretended to represent the US administration. Did he do that? Otherwise it's just a private citizen meeting with foreign diplomats, which happens all the time and there's nothing nefarious about that.
- mc32 5y ago
  Things like these: https://nypost.com/2021/04/26/iran-foreign-minister-says-john-kerry-met-with-him-during-trump-years/ https://nypost.com/2021/04/26/iran-foreign-minister-says-joh... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-pompeo/pompeo-slams-kerry-for-inappropriate-meetings-with-iran-officials-idUSKCN1LU2NY https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-pompeo/pompeo-sl... Maybe it's all politicking, but then if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander.
  - gebruikersnaam 5y ago
    The NY Post isn't a credible source, sorry. If Pompeo had evidence of Kerry having illegal talks, he had the opportunity to provide this evidence to the FBI, seeing as he was part of the administration at the time. Instead he chose to 'slam' Kerry during a news conference. But still no answer to the question if Kerry pretended to represent the US government, which would have been illegal.
    - busymom0 5y ago
      > The NY Post isn't a credible source, sorry. That's the equivalent of an ad-hominen attack.
delecti 5y ago
Knowing nothing about that situation except how you've just described it, of course.
runjake 5y ago
Sure, if it is warranted. I am not partisan. I presume you do not mean while he was acting SecState.