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A tax is a subscription fee for the privileges of citizenship. There are many millions of people who would happily become "subscribers" in return for becoming U

A tax is a subscription fee for the privileges of citizenship. There are many millions of people who would happily become "subscribers" in return for becoming US citizens.

TheGigaChad 5y ago
Suck my dick.
Consultant32452 5y ago
Failing/refusing to pay a subscription fee does not, generally, result in you getting thrown in a cage with rapists and murderers.
- tablespoon 5y ago
  > Failing/refusing to pay a subscription fee does not, generally, result in you getting thrown in a cage with rapists and murderers. If you fail to pay the subscription fee for your gym, but break in to use the equipment anyway, it might.
  - itsyaboi 5y ago
    To take the analogy a step further, a gym subscription is optional. Paying taxes is not.
    - tablespoon 5y ago
      > To take the analogy a step further, a gym subscription is optional. Paying taxes is not. You're pushing the analogy too far. You're not an autarky, there's plenty of stuff you have to pay for that isn't optional (e.g. food, shelter, etc.).
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      - Consultant32452 5y ago
        Sometimes local mobs force you to pay them protection money. If you don't pay, they will take your property or even commit violence against you, exactly like the state. If you do pay, they will provide valuable services to you such as making sure you don't get robbed. Do you feel it would be reasonable to call this a "subscription fee"?
legolas2412 5y ago
Hmm,i wonder why i as a non immigrant don't qualify for this citizenship even after paying all taxes, including FICA
- robocat 5y ago
  Do you earn your money from that system? Salary taxation usually means you are earning your dollars by being part of a functioning society. There are billions of people who would happily become "subscribers" to a US job market, even if the offer required that 50% of their income was ritually burned for no benefit to the “subscriber”. Now capital gains are perhaps a different argument…
- notyourwork 5y ago
  Do you use roads, sidewalks and other public infrastructure? If so you should pay into the system.

A tax is a subscription fee for the privileges of citizenship. There are many millions of people who would happily become "subscribers" in return for becoming US citizens.

TheGigaChad 5y ago

Suck my dick.

Consultant32452 5y ago

Failing/refusing to pay a subscription fee does not, generally, result in you getting thrown in a cage with rapists and murderers.

tablespoon 5y ago
> Failing/refusing to pay a subscription fee does not, generally, result in you getting thrown in a cage with rapists and murderers. If you fail to pay the subscription fee for your gym, but break in to use the equipment anyway, it might.
- itsyaboi 5y ago
  To take the analogy a step further, a gym subscription is optional. Paying taxes is not.
  - tablespoon 5y ago
    > To take the analogy a step further, a gym subscription is optional. Paying taxes is not. You're pushing the analogy too far. You're not an autarky, there's plenty of stuff you have to pay for that isn't optional (e.g. food, shelter, etc.).
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    - Consultant32452 5y ago
      Sometimes local mobs force you to pay them protection money. If you don't pay, they will take your property or even commit violence against you, exactly like the state. If you do pay, they will provide valuable services to you such as making sure you don't get robbed. Do you feel it would be reasonable to call this a "subscription fee"?

legolas2412 5y ago

Hmm,i wonder why i as a non immigrant don't qualify for this citizenship even after paying all taxes, including FICA

robocat 5y ago
Do you earn your money from that system? Salary taxation usually means you are earning your dollars by being part of a functioning society. There are billions of people who would happily become "subscribers" to a US job market, even if the offer required that 50% of their income was ritually burned for no benefit to the “subscriber”. Now capital gains are perhaps a different argument…
notyourwork 5y ago
Do you use roads, sidewalks and other public infrastructure? If so you should pay into the system.