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There is nothing new about Russia interfering with foreign elections. What is new is that a presidential candidate can be accused of colluding with Russia. You

There is nothing new about Russia interfering with foreign elections. What is new is that a presidential candidate can be accused of colluding with Russia. You can't just go back to say "Russian collusion" means something else, when in fact the mainstream media and the Democrat Party members at the time was claiming Trump colluded with Putin.

wavefunction 5y ago
Throwaway account because you're not proud to take credit for what you're claiming? Don't worry, I didn't downvote you, other than with this post.
- temp8964 5y ago
  Thanks. I feel I said lots of stupid things in the past, so I created a long-term throwaway account.
teclordphrack2 5y ago
There was collusion. Manafort gave polling data to the russians.
- _-david-_ 5y ago
  So did the media. Are wr going to arrest any news commentator who was viewed by a Russian?
  - teclordphrack2 5y ago
    Yeah, those are not the same thing. You are not open to an honest debate.
chaosharmonic 5y ago
It's also new for a presidential candidate to literally ask for their assistance on live TV.
- the_optimist 5y ago
  The deep-state circus that followed was clearly rooted in this. Don’t make them mad.
- spankyspangler 5y ago
  This? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kxG8uJUsWU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kxG8uJUsWU Clearly a joke at the expense of the ineptitude of his opponent's campaign. The fact people point to this as their "evidence" is pretty clearly desperation and self-delusion. There was no evidence. You were lied to.
  - chaosharmonic 5y ago
    Right, because it's not like he's lied about this specific event in campaign speeches[0], or specifically asked a foreign power to assist in digging up dirt on an opponent on live TV more than once[1] or anything... [0] https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1310009283401187330 https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1310009283401187330 [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Q67tAUiMg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Q67tAUiMg

wavefunction 5y ago

Throwaway account because you're not proud to take credit for what you're claiming? Don't worry, I didn't downvote you, other than with this post.

temp8964 5y ago
Thanks. I feel I said lots of stupid things in the past, so I created a long-term throwaway account.

teclordphrack2 5y ago

There was collusion. Manafort gave polling data to the russians.

_-david-_ 5y ago
So did the media. Are wr going to arrest any news commentator who was viewed by a Russian?
- teclordphrack2 5y ago
  Yeah, those are not the same thing. You are not open to an honest debate.

chaosharmonic 5y ago

It's also new for a presidential candidate to literally ask for their assistance on live TV.

the_optimist 5y ago
The deep-state circus that followed was clearly rooted in this. Don’t make them mad.
spankyspangler 5y ago
This? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kxG8uJUsWU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kxG8uJUsWU Clearly a joke at the expense of the ineptitude of his opponent's campaign. The fact people point to this as their "evidence" is pretty clearly desperation and self-delusion. There was no evidence. You were lied to.
- chaosharmonic 5y ago
  Right, because it's not like he's lied about this specific event in campaign speeches[0], or specifically asked a foreign power to assist in digging up dirt on an opponent on live TV more than once[1] or anything... [0] https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1310009283401187330 https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1310009283401187330 [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Q67tAUiMg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Q67tAUiMg