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You can certainly use E2E encryption (ie, S/MIME) for your email, whether it's using Apple Mail or not. I'm not sure what you suggest Apple can do about it if y

You can certainly use E2E encryption (ie, S/MIME) for your email, whether it's using Apple Mail or not. I'm not sure what you suggest Apple can do about it if you don't use PGP/GPG on your side though (and yes, you can use S/MIME for email both with iOS and macOS). How Apple CloudKit security works is documented [0] and what Apple can provide to the law enforcement is pretty easily googleable [1], and has been subject to much media coverage over the years. All I was saying is that this is not some recent change. [0]: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec3cac31735/web https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec3cac31735/... [1]: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/law-enforcement-guidelines-us.pdf https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/law-enforcement-guidelin...

CRConrad 5y ago
> You can certainly use E2E encryption (ie, S/MIME) for your email, whether it's using Apple Mail or not. I'm not sure what you suggest Apple can do about it if you don't use PGP/GPG on your side though (and yes, you can use S/MIME for email both with iOS and macOS). What Apple could do seems fairly obvious: Build it into their mail client and enable it by default, no?
- aeontech 5y ago
  > Build it into their mail client and enable it by default, no? Support for S/MIME _is_ built into the client. The user has to configure their certificate keypairs, that part is not under the OS’s control (unless I’m missing something)
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    So, enable it by default and make setting up keys part of the mail client setup?