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Apple Sign-In is just an OpenID federated login; these don't inherently provide any anti-automation or rate limiting; they just push the problem to the Identity
by md_ 5y ago
Apple Sign-In is just an OpenID federated login; these don't inherently provide any anti-automation or rate limiting; they just push the problem to the Identity Provider.
IdPs like Apple/Google/Microsoft might do a fine job of limiting you to "one account per $unit-of-hardware"; Apple in particular can do this via iOS attestation. But then you're limited to either their heuristics (in the case of MSFT/Google) or their hardware (in the case of Apple).
Ultimately this is apples-to-oranges, though, since Cloudflare is not offering an IdP product but simply an anti-automation solution. If you use federated auth, you're getting (and giving up) a lot of other stuff beyond just anti-automation.
- md_ 5y agoMaybe. I would have to read the FIDO group’s discussions on this to be confident in my opinion. :) I personally enjoy the ability to use my employer-provided authenticators on my personal accounts. I think this is both convenient (only one thing to carry) and helps adoption (I got a key “for free”). So maybe enterprise use is a Trojan Horse to promote consumer adoption?
- md_ 5y agoHmm. I replied to the wrong post.