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All opinionated-ness seems to be very arbitary. It's a nice way to say "magical api"

by Inviz 5y ago

PinkPigeon 5y ago
Was just going to say: I have only experienced one thing that branded itself opionionated, which was a CSS (reset) file. So many unexpected behaviours that were really hard to diagnose. I am now very wary of things calling themselves opinionated. Though, simultaneously, where does being 'opinionated' start? Like, we are all building on top of other things, where, inevitably, certain decisions have been made for us. You have to decide whether you can live with those decisions (people say Go, as a language, is quite opinionated), or whether you are going to fork the language and make your own, hehe
- dec0dedab0de 5y ago
  When I see opinionated I assume that the developer made a decision that they like, but they know some people won't like. They are saying up front that they aren't trying to satisfy everyone. They're doing it this way, so don't open up issues asking them to support doing it another way.
- Kinrany 5y ago
  Opinionatedness is a good thing when a problem has no consensus solution, yet a decision needs to be made. If the author correctly identifies the problem and is right about the hard part of the solution and manages to convince other people, the community will accept the unimportant parts as default and discard the important but wrong (by consensus, made possible by the opinionated solution) parts.
  - PinkPigeon 5y ago
    > Opinionatedness is a good thing when a problem has no consensus solution, yet a decision needs to be made. This is an excellent and concise way to sum it up.
- piaste 5y ago
  > simple — It solves my use case. > opinionated — I don’t believe that your use case exists. > elegant — The only use case is making me feel smart. > lightweight — I don’t understand the use-cases the alternatives solve. https://programmingisterrible.com/post/65781074112/devils-dictionary-of-programming https://programmingisterrible.com/post/65781074112/devils-di...
  - PinkPigeon 5y ago
    Love this. Gonna remember it.

All opinionated-ness seems to be very arbitary. It's a nice way to say "magical api"

by Inviz 5y ago

All opinionated-ness seems to be very arbitary. It's a nice way to say "magical api"

Was just going to say: I have only experienced one thing that branded itself opionionated, which was a CSS (reset) file. So many unexpected behaviours that were really hard to diagnose. I am now very wary of things calling themselves opinionated. Though, simultaneously, where does being 'opinionated' start? Like, we are all building on top of other things, where, inevitably, certain decisions have been made for us. You have to decide whether you can live with those decisions (people say Go, as a language, is quite opinionated), or whether you are going to fork the language and make your own, hehe

dec0dedab0de 5y ago
When I see opinionated I assume that the developer made a decision that they like, but they know some people won't like. They are saying up front that they aren't trying to satisfy everyone. They're doing it this way, so don't open up issues asking them to support doing it another way.
Kinrany 5y ago
Opinionatedness is a good thing when a problem has no consensus solution, yet a decision needs to be made. If the author correctly identifies the problem and is right about the hard part of the solution and manages to convince other people, the community will accept the unimportant parts as default and discard the important but wrong (by consensus, made possible by the opinionated solution) parts.
- PinkPigeon 5y ago
  > Opinionatedness is a good thing when a problem has no consensus solution, yet a decision needs to be made. This is an excellent and concise way to sum it up.
piaste 5y ago
> simple — It solves my use case. > opinionated — I don’t believe that your use case exists. > elegant — The only use case is making me feel smart. > lightweight — I don’t understand the use-cases the alternatives solve. https://programmingisterrible.com/post/65781074112/devils-dictionary-of-programming https://programmingisterrible.com/post/65781074112/devils-di...
- PinkPigeon 5y ago
  Love this. Gonna remember it.