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Counterpoint: many atrocities have been made acceptable to the general population, in the name of "public health" (or at least, the greater public good). For m

• syops 5y ago
  The greater good in this case means following rules/mandates that do not in any way lead to an outcome of supporting atrocities. There is no valid critical analysis by which one concludes that not wearing masks or engaging in social distancing is a fight against atrocities.
  • Siira 5y ago
    Masks are a minor inconvenience but they affect millions. It adds up.
    • syops 5y ago
      It adds up to something comparable to bringing up atrocities apt? I don’t see how. It’s not like the inconvenience of wearing a mask done billions of times leads to overall a massive inconvenience that becomes intolerable. This type of inconvenience is not additive. There is no compounding effect.
      • Siira 5y ago
        It adds up to significant unnecessary suffering. It’s clear to me that doing, e.g., human challenge vaccine trials was a much more cost-effective measure (nowadays just get the bloody vaccine and be done with pandemic), and masks are just a weak band-aid for which I have not seen much more evidence since the Slatestarcodex review (which called CDC on its bullshit very early: masks probably help a bit, but not much, and the evidence is weak either way), and they are being used first and foremost as a political signaling and psychological comfort device (remember the whole “masks more effective than vaccines” rhetoric).
        • syops 5y ago
          Wearing a mask is not suffering. If you think this then you have a badly misconstrued idea of what the word suffering means.
          • Siira 5y ago
            Now you're just gaslighting.
            • syops 5y ago
              You wrote: It adds up to significant unnecessary suffering. The it, I assume, refers to the topic at hand. Namely wearing masks. It does not in any way add up to suffering.
  • hitpointdrew 5y ago
    >There is no valid critical analysis by which one concludes that not wearing masks or engaging in social distancing is a fight against atrocities. 100 % disagree. The "social distancing" has caused state governments to take extreme measures closing down many business. The distancing has also put undo stress upon families. How many business have closed permanently? How many people are now suffering major depression due to these policies? How many people have committed suicide due to economic or relational hardship due to these polices? Masks and social distancing have done WAY more harm, than if we just ignored the virus and went about our lives.
    • syops 5y ago
      Masks have not in any way contributed to the problems you cite. Suicide numbers are nowhere close to the total number of Covid dead. There has been economic hardship caused by social distancing and mental health problems too have been caused by social distancing. Masks contributed virtually zero to this. Far more people would have died had we not implemented the policies that were enacted. In no way is social distancing an atrocity even if one assumes your distorted view of the severity of the negative effects of social distancing is correct.
• lawtalkinghuman 5y ago
  There's a fairly significant difference between the Tuskeegee Experiment, and having to wear a surgical facemask while in a supermarket.