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The UK is the Dunning-Kruger-Effekt applied to a whole country.

by j-pb 5y ago

TheOtherHobbes 5y ago
The UK as a whole isn't. The UK is a very interesting country trying to get out of its cocoon at the moment. This is going to be more of a struggle than most people expect, but the results could be surprising. The UK's government and media certainly are.
- j-pb 5y ago
  Of course this doesn't apply to individuals. It's an effect of the cultural feeling of supremacy originating from it's former colonial might, combined with a fairytale like ethos originating from the monarchy. In a sense it is only natural to become a bit megalomanic if you're called "the united kingdom", a name so full of grandeur and dreamlike romance that even tolkien would be a bit envious. Combine that with 40 years of anti E.U. media and you get a situation where people vote against their own self interest because they think they are better off alone. I for one can't wait for our scrottish brethren and sisters to rejoin us. They may take your passport but they will never take our article 49.
dang 5y ago
Nationalistic flamewar is not welcome here. Please don't post like this, regardless of which country you have an issue with. It only leads threads into hell. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20nationalistic%20flame&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- j-pb 5y ago
  With all due respect, I think you're blowing that comment on the skewed power dynamic of the U.K. with the E.U., public miss-information campaigns, and inappropriate policies of political leadership, vastly out of proportion. This has nothing to do with nationalism, but with a sombre sadness about the unnecessary damage caused by brexit.
  - j-pb 5y ago
    Of course I apologise if anybody has felt offended.
  - dang 5y ago
    Pejorative putdowns of countries are easily enough to start flamewars on the internet. Since the flamewars would be about/between nations, I use the term nationalistic flamewar to describe that. It isn't meant to imply that you're somehow a nationalist yourself—just that this sort of flamewar is what we end up with when people post careless comments like that, which is why we ask everyone not to.

The UK is the Dunning-Kruger-Effekt applied to a whole country.

by j-pb 5y ago

The UK is the Dunning-Kruger-Effekt applied to a whole country.

The UK as a whole isn't. The UK is a very interesting country trying to get out of its cocoon at the moment. This is going to be more of a struggle than most people expect, but the results could be surprising. The UK's government and media certainly are.

j-pb 5y ago
Of course this doesn't apply to individuals. It's an effect of the cultural feeling of supremacy originating from it's former colonial might, combined with a fairytale like ethos originating from the monarchy. In a sense it is only natural to become a bit megalomanic if you're called "the united kingdom", a name so full of grandeur and dreamlike romance that even tolkien would be a bit envious. Combine that with 40 years of anti E.U. media and you get a situation where people vote against their own self interest because they think they are better off alone. I for one can't wait for our scrottish brethren and sisters to rejoin us. They may take your passport but they will never take our article 49.

dang 5y ago

Nationalistic flamewar is not welcome here. Please don't post like this, regardless of which country you have an issue with. It only leads threads into hell. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20nationalistic%20flame&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

j-pb 5y ago
With all due respect, I think you're blowing that comment on the skewed power dynamic of the U.K. with the E.U., public miss-information campaigns, and inappropriate policies of political leadership, vastly out of proportion. This has nothing to do with nationalism, but with a sombre sadness about the unnecessary damage caused by brexit.
- j-pb 5y ago
  Of course I apologise if anybody has felt offended.
- dang 5y ago
  Pejorative putdowns of countries are easily enough to start flamewars on the internet. Since the flamewars would be about/between nations, I use the term nationalistic flamewar to describe that. It isn't meant to imply that you're somehow a nationalist yourself—just that this sort of flamewar is what we end up with when people post careless comments like that, which is why we ask everyone not to.