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How is this fair at all? It's not fair to consumers whose prevailing choices are regulatorily subverted. It's not fair to media producers who are now penalized

How is this fair at all? It's not fair to consumers whose prevailing choices are regulatorily subverted. It's not fair to media producers who are now penalized for not being Canadian, nor is it fair for media platforms who now have to invent some special process for Canadian users. By what definition is it fair to force foreigners to fund your own nationalist political goals? Why should anyone care that the current Canadian government supposedly can't even muster enough democratic support to enact and maintain a lasting budget item to sponsor its own agenda?

munk-a 5y ago
Canada is the market that it is - it's your decision as a business to voluntarily enter that market and the GDPR has shown that regional policies like these can be sanely implemented. As someone who can see the problems this country is trying to fight through during the pandemic, I think it's reasonable to reinvest in our economy and this will, essentially, work out sort of like a tariff. It's likely the cost of consuming these services will slightly rise but in exchange we should see more money staying domestic. And hey, politics is hard. As an example of domestic prioritization, Canada prepaid for a whole lot of vaccines (enough for everyone to be vaccinated three times over - so six shots) but when push came to shove the US horded their supply to inoculate citizens first. I think it was a grave error for the government to turn to the private market to purchase those doses instead of investing in expanding domestic vaccine production back in April 2020 but I can't really hold it against America for ensuring the safety of their domestic population first - it's not like you're doing anything overtly malignant like marking up the prices per dose or refusing to release the vaccine globally unless folks sign on to unbalanced trade deals. Canada controls and provides the Canadian consumer market - we value supporting local content and want to make sure our artists are able to make a living because, honestly, we really value the arts up here - whether they're the group of seven or putting together tutorials on how to make a DIY rocket in your backyard on youtube.
- 908B64B197 5y ago
  > As an example of domestic prioritization, Canada prepaid for a whole lot of vaccines (enough for everyone to be vaccinated three times over - so six shots) but when push came to shove the US horded their supply to inoculate citizens first. There was no "hoarding" or "export ban"; The Trump Administration was simply smart and bought the doses when potential vaccines were still early in development, long before FDA approval. Manufacturers are simply fulfilling their contractual obligations to ship the dose to the first investors. Canada could have done the same, giving more money to promising tech earlier, to get the doses earlier. Instead, Trudeau spent 44 million dollars [0] gave months [1] of work to CCP controlled CanSino vaccine. It, unsurprisingly, failed spectacularly. > we value supporting local content and want to make sure our artists are able to make a living because, honestly, we really value the arts up here Then why are special laws required at all if people really want that content and are interested in buying it? There's no special laws that says that people MUST by iPhones, they simply do because they like the product. [0] https://globalnews.ca/news/7302194/canada-coronavirus-vaccine-deal-china/ https://globalnews.ca/news/7302194/canada-coronavirus-vaccin... [1] https://ipolitics.ca/2021/03/12/a-waste-of-a-lot-of-time-researcher-in-cansino-deal-shares-new-details/ https://ipolitics.ca/2021/03/12/a-waste-of-a-lot-of-time-res...
- themacguffinman 5y ago
  Then enact a tariff. This is simply a dishonest tariff that tries to bury and hide costs. It's a tariff that you know opposition parties will have no trouble mustering democratic support in killing if it was made plain. "Politics is hard" because it turns out when you sell a tariff as something other than a tariff, it's easier to pass! Who would have thought? I should have added another sentence to my original comment: it's not fair to citizens whose democratic choice is being subverted through deliberate misrepresentation to protect an unpopular agenda. The US has a grant for the arts, it's called the National Endowment for the Arts. Didn't need to misrepresent it to their citizens to keep it for more than 50 years. Sounds like if you really valued the arts in Canada you'd have no trouble getting your government to fund the arts too. But sure, perhaps Canada's bad position in vaccine supply justifies unfairly penalizing foreign media. When I grew up, I learnt in school that one wrong justifies another. But why even bother arguing about fairness. After all, "Canada is the market that it is - it's your decision as a business to voluntarily enter that market", so anything Canada does is justified.

munk-a 5y ago

Canada is the market that it is - it's your decision as a business to voluntarily enter that market and the GDPR has shown that regional policies like these can be sanely implemented. As someone who can see the problems this country is trying to fight through during the pandemic, I think it's reasonable to reinvest in our economy and this will, essentially, work out sort of like a tariff. It's likely the cost of consuming these services will slightly rise but in exchange we should see more money staying domestic. And hey, politics is hard. As an example of domestic prioritization, Canada prepaid for a whole lot of vaccines (enough for everyone to be vaccinated three times over - so six shots) but when push came to shove the US horded their supply to inoculate citizens first. I think it was a grave error for the government to turn to the private market to purchase those doses instead of investing in expanding domestic vaccine production back in April 2020 but I can't really hold it against America for ensuring the safety of their domestic population first - it's not like you're doing anything overtly malignant like marking up the prices per dose or refusing to release the vaccine globally unless folks sign on to unbalanced trade deals. Canada controls and provides the Canadian consumer market - we value supporting local content and want to make sure our artists are able to make a living because, honestly, we really value the arts up here - whether they're the group of seven or putting together tutorials on how to make a DIY rocket in your backyard on youtube.

908B64B197 5y ago
> As an example of domestic prioritization, Canada prepaid for a whole lot of vaccines (enough for everyone to be vaccinated three times over - so six shots) but when push came to shove the US horded their supply to inoculate citizens first. There was no "hoarding" or "export ban"; The Trump Administration was simply smart and bought the doses when potential vaccines were still early in development, long before FDA approval. Manufacturers are simply fulfilling their contractual obligations to ship the dose to the first investors. Canada could have done the same, giving more money to promising tech earlier, to get the doses earlier. Instead, Trudeau spent 44 million dollars [0] gave months [1] of work to CCP controlled CanSino vaccine. It, unsurprisingly, failed spectacularly. > we value supporting local content and want to make sure our artists are able to make a living because, honestly, we really value the arts up here Then why are special laws required at all if people really want that content and are interested in buying it? There's no special laws that says that people MUST by iPhones, they simply do because they like the product. [0] https://globalnews.ca/news/7302194/canada-coronavirus-vaccine-deal-china/ https://globalnews.ca/news/7302194/canada-coronavirus-vaccin... [1] https://ipolitics.ca/2021/03/12/a-waste-of-a-lot-of-time-researcher-in-cansino-deal-shares-new-details/ https://ipolitics.ca/2021/03/12/a-waste-of-a-lot-of-time-res...
themacguffinman 5y ago
Then enact a tariff. This is simply a dishonest tariff that tries to bury and hide costs. It's a tariff that you know opposition parties will have no trouble mustering democratic support in killing if it was made plain. "Politics is hard" because it turns out when you sell a tariff as something other than a tariff, it's easier to pass! Who would have thought? I should have added another sentence to my original comment: it's not fair to citizens whose democratic choice is being subverted through deliberate misrepresentation to protect an unpopular agenda. The US has a grant for the arts, it's called the National Endowment for the Arts. Didn't need to misrepresent it to their citizens to keep it for more than 50 years. Sounds like if you really valued the arts in Canada you'd have no trouble getting your government to fund the arts too. But sure, perhaps Canada's bad position in vaccine supply justifies unfairly penalizing foreign media. When I grew up, I learnt in school that one wrong justifies another. But why even bother arguing about fairness. After all, "Canada is the market that it is - it's your decision as a business to voluntarily enter that market", so anything Canada does is justified.