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Sounds like a waste of time considering it won't pass the first amendment test.
by 908B64B197 6y ago
Sounds like a waste of time considering it won't pass the first amendment test.
- klyrs 6y agoIn which country does the first amendment apply?
- pmiller2 6y agoStop being pedantic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_2_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms#Freedom_of_expression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_2_of_the_Canadian_Char... Edit because I'm apparently only allowed like 5 comments a day: Refusing to spend 30 seconds to find out that "yes, there is a roughly equivalent right to free speech in Canada" is just lazy, if you didn't know that, or pedantic if you did. Which would you rather be?
- deanCommie 6y agoPushing back against "the first amendment" being a shorthand for "freedom of expression" in a Global context is not being pedantic. Especially interesting in a thread where the people bringing this up as a violation of freedom of expression are advocating for a border-free internet without local oversight or government control over content. Do you want an international decentralized internet or do you want a defacto US culture internet?
- munk-a 6y agoThis might be a particularly sensitive topic for Canadians right now as there's a lot of extremely negative culture leak up from the states including anti-mask/vax protestors that repeat conservative US talking points. It's extremely common to see people toting "Masks are against the 1st Amendment" up here so I imagine a fair amount of the pedantry you're perceiving here is actually just misdirected frustration over false information spreading through fringe groups we have to deal with.
- klyrs 6y agoI didn't search for the Charter, not because of laziness, but because I'm an american immigrant to Canada and I'm familiar with both the Charter and the Constitution, and a chunk of case law surrounding both. Americans thinking that their Constitution will protect them up here is an extremely common misconception, and for example, a witness who says "I plead the fifth" will get laughed out of court (and perhaps into jail). I would submit that pedantry is the very basis of law, and happily accept that label in this context. But "that's a law in a different country" is hardly a minor detail.
- readflaggedcomm 6y agoAll of them, since it restrains Congress wherever its actions might apply.
- nanis 6y ago> it won't pass the first amendment test. I do not think it applies.
- cookingrobot 6y agoThese Canadian Content rules have already been in place for a long time. This is about applying them to online providers the way they’re already applied to broadcasters. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content
- munk-a 6y agoSpecifically - the CanCon rules don't actually restrict the broadcast of any specific speech just requiring a different mixture than what you might desire (i.e. Rush). Additionally it's important to note that the CCRF is not the US Bill of Rights and both has some inherent textual differences along with significantly different interpretation over the years. Free speech in Canada is both more and less free than in the US in some pretty interesting ways.
- refurb 6y agoSure it restricts specific speech - speech deemed to not meet Canadian content requirements. And I’d love to hear an example of how free speech in Canada is “more free” than in the US.
- dang 6y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27148801 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27148801.