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This: http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/?p=28237 http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/?p=28237 Is a lot more helpful. There's still a lot of market to cover,

by sudont 15y ago

This: http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/?p=28237 http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/?p=28237 Is a lot more helpful. There's still a lot of market to cover, so it's not like iOS and Android are cannibalizing each others sales yet.

miahi 15y ago
The difference between the titles is very interesting: "Apple up, Android flat in smartphone growth" vs the original "_In US_, Smartphones Now Majority of New Cellphone Purchases". Yes, the US market is big, but not the only one. http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/andy-rubin-500000-android-activations-daily/ http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/andy-rubin-500000-and...
- kenjackson 15y ago
  The big story, IMO, looking at the charts is that smartphone growth all-up stalled (flat between Q1 and Q2). Maybe the first Q2Q stall in growth in years. I'd like to know why people aren't getting smartphones? Is the cost of the data plans? If so, I think we may see growth in this market segment slow down a lot faster than some people expect.
  - Meai 15y ago
    Because they are expensive, they have very little battery life, they break easily (expensive again), they may get stolen (I can leave my 10€ phone anywhere, I wouldn't do that with my 600€ one), they do everything computers do, only at a tiny impractical screen, there is a notion of more radiation from smartphones, they make it much more attractive to waste time, they are much slower to boot up = people don't want their smartphones do be always on/standby, they are more unreliable in terms of glitches / connectivity issues / bugs.
  - micampe 15y ago
    I think that's because they are selling them as pocket computers, and a lot of people don't care about having another computer. Those who did already got them.
    - moe 15y ago
      A number of people (at least in my circle) have also realized that those touchscreen devices are inferior for their primary purpose; being a phone. I know quite a few who "downgraded" their iphones to old fashioned devices with a real keypad (mostly nokias) after the novelty had worn off.
    - gnaffle 15y ago
      Actually, my experience is that a lot of people are getting smartphones that hate their computer and rarely use it, and just want a good phone. My mother got an iPhone, not because she wanted lots of apps, but because the user interface was simple enough to understand and use for making phone calls, and because she never figured out the T9 stuff. I was quite surprised when I discovered that she'd figured out how to use Safari on her own. Some other friends got an iPhone after buying and iPod touch for watching videos and listening to music while commuting, and gradually discovered that it was pointless carrying around two devices. So the potential market is very big IMO, and only limited to how far down the price can be pushed. Of course, there will always be a big market for "non"-smartphones, as these will get cheaper as well and reach even more people.
  - ugh 15y ago
    That doesn’t seem like a big story unless it happens again.
  - jerf 15y ago
    "Is the cost of the data plans?" It's what's stopping me. $60/month for both lines -> $720/year, and given how much I'm in front of computers and in range of free-to-me WiFi that's a terrible, terrible deal. I've got a "feature phone" and I'm not really feeling the pain.
    - hugh3 15y ago
      If you're in the US, try Virgin Mobile. They've got the LG Optimus V (a reasonably capable Androidy sort of thing) for $200 on prepaid, then you pay $25 a month for unlimited data + unlimited text + (I think) 300 minutes of voice. It's cheaper than any other option to a ridiculous degree.
      - subsection1h 15y ago
        My girlfriend, brother, and his fiance have been using Virgin Mobile's $25/month Beyond Talk service for a year or so. They're all using LG Optimus V phones now. They're satisfied customers.
- vegardx 15y ago
  Yeah - the market is huge, but when it comes to adoption rate one should really look into Norway, Sweden and Denmark, where adoption rate of smart phones make other countries look dumb.

by sudont 15y ago

miahi 15y ago

The difference between the titles is very interesting: "Apple up, Android flat in smartphone growth" vs the original "_In US_, Smartphones Now Majority of New Cellphone Purchases". Yes, the US market is big, but not the only one. http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/andy-rubin-500000-android-activations-daily/ http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/andy-rubin-500000-and...

kenjackson 15y ago
The big story, IMO, looking at the charts is that smartphone growth all-up stalled (flat between Q1 and Q2). Maybe the first Q2Q stall in growth in years. I'd like to know why people aren't getting smartphones? Is the cost of the data plans? If so, I think we may see growth in this market segment slow down a lot faster than some people expect.
- Meai 15y ago
  Because they are expensive, they have very little battery life, they break easily (expensive again), they may get stolen (I can leave my 10€ phone anywhere, I wouldn't do that with my 600€ one), they do everything computers do, only at a tiny impractical screen, there is a notion of more radiation from smartphones, they make it much more attractive to waste time, they are much slower to boot up = people don't want their smartphones do be always on/standby, they are more unreliable in terms of glitches / connectivity issues / bugs.
- micampe 15y ago
  I think that's because they are selling them as pocket computers, and a lot of people don't care about having another computer. Those who did already got them.
  - moe 15y ago
    A number of people (at least in my circle) have also realized that those touchscreen devices are inferior for their primary purpose; being a phone. I know quite a few who "downgraded" their iphones to old fashioned devices with a real keypad (mostly nokias) after the novelty had worn off.
  - gnaffle 15y ago
    Actually, my experience is that a lot of people are getting smartphones that hate their computer and rarely use it, and just want a good phone. My mother got an iPhone, not because she wanted lots of apps, but because the user interface was simple enough to understand and use for making phone calls, and because she never figured out the T9 stuff. I was quite surprised when I discovered that she'd figured out how to use Safari on her own. Some other friends got an iPhone after buying and iPod touch for watching videos and listening to music while commuting, and gradually discovered that it was pointless carrying around two devices. So the potential market is very big IMO, and only limited to how far down the price can be pushed. Of course, there will always be a big market for "non"-smartphones, as these will get cheaper as well and reach even more people.
- ugh 15y ago
  That doesn’t seem like a big story unless it happens again.
- jerf 15y ago
  "Is the cost of the data plans?" It's what's stopping me. $60/month for both lines -> $720/year, and given how much I'm in front of computers and in range of free-to-me WiFi that's a terrible, terrible deal. I've got a "feature phone" and I'm not really feeling the pain.
  - hugh3 15y ago
    If you're in the US, try Virgin Mobile. They've got the LG Optimus V (a reasonably capable Androidy sort of thing) for $200 on prepaid, then you pay $25 a month for unlimited data + unlimited text + (I think) 300 minutes of voice. It's cheaper than any other option to a ridiculous degree.
    - subsection1h 15y ago
      My girlfriend, brother, and his fiance have been using Virgin Mobile's $25/month Beyond Talk service for a year or so. They're all using LG Optimus V phones now. They're satisfied customers.
vegardx 15y ago
Yeah - the market is huge, but when it comes to adoption rate one should really look into Norway, Sweden and Denmark, where adoption rate of smart phones make other countries look dumb.