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Absolutely this. Paying a ransom should be illegal and company officers should face personal criminal liability for allowing it. If the CEO of Colonial was faci

by ttul 5y ago

Absolutely this. Paying a ransom should be illegal and company officers should face personal criminal liability for allowing it. If the CEO of Colonial was facing jail time, there is no way the payment would have happened.

Guest42 5y ago
I would sooner have security negligence be criminalized as there are a number of products that are critical to the economy and peoples health. Having a companies systems get wiped out can have a monumental amount of collateral damage.
- silexia 5y ago
  Paying Ransoms should be criminalized as there is far more damage from allowing this to continue then having a few systems wiped and restored from backups. Not taking steps to have cybersecurity in companies should be criminalized as well... I am a CEO and thinks CEO's should be held directly criminally responsible for this. Finally, any nation that allows hackers to operate from within their borders should be subject to 100x over damages caused sanctions. Countries without strong governments to enforce this should have direct airstrikes conducted against the individual hackers.
  - mjevans 5y ago
    If you think the 100X damages is overkill please reconsider within this framework: Any nation that harbors international terrorists by not at least attempting to hold them accountable is implicitly operating an outsourced covert activities team. The actions of any such team should be considered representative of that country and thus this would be an act of guerilla warfare.
    - warlog 5y ago
      Nukem from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
briandear 5y ago
The Obama administration secretly organized an airlift of $400 million worth of cash to Iran that coincided with the January 2016 release of four Americans detained in Tehran, according to U.S. and European officials and congressional staff briefed on the operation afterward. Wooden pallets stacked with euros, Swiss francs and other currencies were flown into Iran on an unmarked cargo plane, according to these officials. The U.S. procured the money from the central banks of the Netherlands and Switzerland, they said.
- monocasa 5y ago
  To be fair, that was Iranian money in the first place that had been frozen.
  - briandear 5y ago
    It was still a ransom. “I’ll give you money, you release our hostages.”
    - jjoonathan 5y ago
      "I'll give you [back your] money, you release our hostages" -- but that doesn't fit the agenda as well, does it?
skinnymuch 5y ago
I’ll go to prison for some time for being their new CFO. If some cash goes to myself or a close family member after I pay the ransomware as CCO. Obviously this would be too transparent if done in the span of a week.

by ttul 5y ago

Guest42 5y ago

I would sooner have security negligence be criminalized as there are a number of products that are critical to the economy and peoples health. Having a companies systems get wiped out can have a monumental amount of collateral damage.

silexia 5y ago
Paying Ransoms should be criminalized as there is far more damage from allowing this to continue then having a few systems wiped and restored from backups. Not taking steps to have cybersecurity in companies should be criminalized as well... I am a CEO and thinks CEO's should be held directly criminally responsible for this. Finally, any nation that allows hackers to operate from within their borders should be subject to 100x over damages caused sanctions. Countries without strong governments to enforce this should have direct airstrikes conducted against the individual hackers.
- mjevans 5y ago
  If you think the 100X damages is overkill please reconsider within this framework: Any nation that harbors international terrorists by not at least attempting to hold them accountable is implicitly operating an outsourced covert activities team. The actions of any such team should be considered representative of that country and thus this would be an act of guerilla warfare.
  - warlog 5y ago
    Nukem from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

briandear 5y ago

The Obama administration secretly organized an airlift of $400 million worth of cash to Iran that coincided with the January 2016 release of four Americans detained in Tehran, according to U.S. and European officials and congressional staff briefed on the operation afterward. Wooden pallets stacked with euros, Swiss francs and other currencies were flown into Iran on an unmarked cargo plane, according to these officials. The U.S. procured the money from the central banks of the Netherlands and Switzerland, they said.

monocasa 5y ago
To be fair, that was Iranian money in the first place that had been frozen.
- briandear 5y ago
  It was still a ransom. “I’ll give you money, you release our hostages.”
  - jjoonathan 5y ago
    "I'll give you [back your] money, you release our hostages" -- but that doesn't fit the agenda as well, does it?

skinnymuch 5y ago

I’ll go to prison for some time for being their new CFO. If some cash goes to myself or a close family member after I pay the ransomware as CCO. Obviously this would be too transparent if done in the span of a week.