4 ms·

I think there are a lot of 3rd party wrapper around Google & Apples Push APIs, which are not really needed. You can send Push Notification yourself just fine.

I think there are a lot of 3rd party wrapper around Google & Apples Push APIs, which are not really needed. You can send Push Notification yourself just fine. For email though, not sure, that's a completely different topic. It comes with many headaches, using a service like SendGrid or Mailchimp seems like a good idea, and if you really want to roll our own mail servers down the line you can still do that.

capableweb 5y ago
I'm no mobile developer, so I don't really know what I'm talking about. Please enlighten me if you can. Doesn't push notifications on iOS require using Apple Push Notification service? That was my last impression I got when I talked with someone about it.
- sarsway 5y ago
  Yes, you send a request to Apple's APIs and they will deliver a push notification. It's very simple really. Now there are a lot of wrappers around that (like courier.com) and instead of using Apple's API you know use the wrappers API. That also often requires some kind of 3rd party SDK to be integrated in your app. These services are supposed to make things easier and have additional features like SMS notifications and so on, but, well not sure, never really used them myself.
  - capableweb 5y ago
    Right, that was my initial point. You can't self-host notifications as they always go through either Apples or Androids servers, with neither company provide a way to self host that part.
tluyben2 5y ago
What are good wrappers (not services!!!) for the apple and Google (and browser) notification APIs that handle the entire process? I only used Firebase for this purpose as when I started to look for self hosted solutions, they were all scattered libs with 'only 20000 easy steps to set up notifications for x!'. Maybe this has changed and I missed it: I would like to move away from Firebase. For email we run bsd (not that that matters, it is just a factoid) servers, correctly configured which seem to work well (mail does not get to spam unless it is).

capableweb 5y ago

I'm no mobile developer, so I don't really know what I'm talking about. Please enlighten me if you can. Doesn't push notifications on iOS require using Apple Push Notification service? That was my last impression I got when I talked with someone about it.

sarsway 5y ago
Yes, you send a request to Apple's APIs and they will deliver a push notification. It's very simple really. Now there are a lot of wrappers around that (like courier.com) and instead of using Apple's API you know use the wrappers API. That also often requires some kind of 3rd party SDK to be integrated in your app. These services are supposed to make things easier and have additional features like SMS notifications and so on, but, well not sure, never really used them myself.
- capableweb 5y ago
  Right, that was my initial point. You can't self-host notifications as they always go through either Apples or Androids servers, with neither company provide a way to self host that part.

tluyben2 5y ago

What are good wrappers (not services!!!) for the apple and Google (and browser) notification APIs that handle the entire process? I only used Firebase for this purpose as when I started to look for self hosted solutions, they were all scattered libs with 'only 20000 easy steps to set up notifications for x!'. Maybe this has changed and I missed it: I would like to move away from Firebase. For email we run bsd (not that that matters, it is just a factoid) servers, correctly configured which seem to work well (mail does not get to spam unless it is).