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The CDC really botched this one. Nobody will be able to take them seriously because either a) their previous guidance was correct and they only updated guidance

The CDC really botched this one. Nobody will be able to take them seriously because either a) their previous guidance was correct and they only updated guidance to encourage more people to get vaccinated, or b) their previous guidance was wrong. Either way, it makes them look foolish and destroys whatever credibility still remained in the institution.

melling 5y ago
No, they didn’t. The CDC explained that we didn’t know if people could be contagious after being vaccinated. Not sure where this stands. Now most people who want the vaccine will soon have it but it looks like lots of holdouts. So, now we have a carrot and stick. No mask required and people are now on their own if they choose to skip it
- patwolf 5y ago
  The CDC director herself was saying back in April that vaccinated people don't spread the virus. > “Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday. That’s “not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.”
  - melling 5y ago
    In the future skip to the part where that was retracted. https://people.com/health/vaccinated-people-do-not-appear-carry-spread-covid-19/ https://people.com/health/vaccinated-people-do-not-appear-ca...
    - patwolf 5y ago
      At least I was right about the CDC lacking credibility.
      - jfengel 5y ago
        Yes, but you also said a wrong thing. Therefore you lack credibility and nobody should ever listen to you again.
      - wyldfire 5y ago
        Walking back statements because they're untrue/unverified/exaggerated/unqualified shouldn't necessarily remove your credibility. But doubling down on falsehoods definitely should. Science is the pursuit of knowledge and we can always conduct a new experiment that reveals inaccuracies or invalid conclusions from yesterday's experiment.
        uoaei 5y ago
        There has been an apparent turn in the present culture-war-type rhetoric to distrusting people because they admit their mistakes, but somehow heaping more praise on those who double down on their falsehoods. Really curious how that comes about.

melling 5y ago

No, they didn’t. The CDC explained that we didn’t know if people could be contagious after being vaccinated. Not sure where this stands. Now most people who want the vaccine will soon have it but it looks like lots of holdouts. So, now we have a carrot and stick. No mask required and people are now on their own if they choose to skip it

patwolf 5y ago
The CDC director herself was saying back in April that vaccinated people don't spread the virus. > “Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday. That’s “not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.”
- melling 5y ago
  In the future skip to the part where that was retracted. https://people.com/health/vaccinated-people-do-not-appear-carry-spread-covid-19/ https://people.com/health/vaccinated-people-do-not-appear-ca...
  - patwolf 5y ago
    At least I was right about the CDC lacking credibility.
    - jfengel 5y ago
      Yes, but you also said a wrong thing. Therefore you lack credibility and nobody should ever listen to you again.
    - wyldfire 5y ago
      Walking back statements because they're untrue/unverified/exaggerated/unqualified shouldn't necessarily remove your credibility. But doubling down on falsehoods definitely should. Science is the pursuit of knowledge and we can always conduct a new experiment that reveals inaccuracies or invalid conclusions from yesterday's experiment.
      - uoaei 5y ago
        There has been an apparent turn in the present culture-war-type rhetoric to distrusting people because they admit their mistakes, but somehow heaping more praise on those who double down on their falsehoods. Really curious how that comes about.