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Echoing the other feedback here--I thought it would be cheaper too. The DIY edition where you have to bring your own components is at least double the price of

Echoing the other feedback here--I thought it would be cheaper too. The DIY edition where you have to bring your own components is at least double the price of a slightly slower laptop with RAM and storage included. I was expecting the DIY to start at $300-400, the current price point is far too high for unproven build quality.

lilactown 6y ago
I'd be OK paying a premium for more modularity. I'm curious what the support for things that I can't upgrade will be like if I want to run Linux.
boudin 6y ago
The possibility to upgrade and repair easily must have been quite a bit of engineering upfront. It's also quite a niche laptop, so I guess there's less saving at scale than the big players in this market.
- kitsunesoba 6y ago
  Also, that screen panel probably wasn't cheap. Its ratio is unusual for consumer products so it's likely a somewhat low-volume part, and its high resolution, wide gamut, and high brightness likely bump its price up as well. Normally in $300-$400 laptops you're getting a low resolution display with a truly horrible TN panel or low-end IPS panel with mediocre color and brightness so low it's difficult to use in even a well-daylight-lit room (200-300 nits).
neolog 6y ago
The price point seems fine to me. These systems are for professionals, so they're competing with MacBook Pro, not budget vendors. The same should apply to Pine64 and Purism, though they might not realize it yet.
- elric 6y ago
  They're similarly priced to Thinkpads, and they have similar specs. I'd agree that the price seems fine. The warranty seems pretty limited (1 year!), businesses won't be happy about that. Hell, EU mandates a minimum of 2 year warranty for consumer goods. I'm overall very impressed with their offering and the progress they've made, but I hope it will be refined in the future.

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Echoing the other feedback here--I thought it would be cheaper too. The DIY edition where you have to bring your own components is at least double the price of

by candiddevmike 6y ago

lilactown 6y ago
I'd be OK paying a premium for more modularity. I'm curious what the support for things that I can't upgrade will be like if I want to run Linux.
boudin 6y ago
The possibility to upgrade and repair easily must have been quite a bit of engineering upfront. It's also quite a niche laptop, so I guess there's less saving at scale than the big players in this market.
- kitsunesoba 6y ago
  Also, that screen panel probably wasn't cheap. Its ratio is unusual for consumer products so it's likely a somewhat low-volume part, and its high resolution, wide gamut, and high brightness likely bump its price up as well. Normally in $300-$400 laptops you're getting a low resolution display with a truly horrible TN panel or low-end IPS panel with mediocre color and brightness so low it's difficult to use in even a well-daylight-lit room (200-300 nits).
neolog 6y ago
The price point seems fine to me. These systems are for professionals, so they're competing with MacBook Pro, not budget vendors. The same should apply to Pine64 and Purism, though they might not realize it yet.
- elric 6y ago
  They're similarly priced to Thinkpads, and they have similar specs. I'd agree that the price seems fine. The warranty seems pretty limited (1 year!), businesses won't be happy about that. Hell, EU mandates a minimum of 2 year warranty for consumer goods. I'm overall very impressed with their offering and the progress they've made, but I hope it will be refined in the future.