like such a beautiful kind of idealism to me dreaming of some alternate reality where GUIs were never invented This is the ideal dream state you send your stu

like such a beautiful kind of idealism to me dreaming of some alternate reality where GUIs were never invented This is the ideal dream state you send your students to absorb? A bunch of terminal-users obsessed with building everything in the terminal? Why indoctrinate your students into that? Note: Reading over the above I realize it sounds antagonistic, probably because I formed everything as a question. I don't mean it to be antagonistic. It's just me not understanding where you're coming from. if we stopped treating our users like 12 year olds would they stop interacting with our sites like 12 year olds Yeah, maybe. But... I'm not sure if you want my dad to be part of your idealized future, but if you do, the terminal is not going to be the way to do it I'm all for finding ways to empower users, but how does that lead to you getting off the train at no GUIs, instead of better GUIs?