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Framework Laptop – pre-orders are now open

80 points by spurgu 5y ago

agucova 5y ago
This is extremely cool. Is it possible to build custom modules for the laptop? I would love adding GPIO or sensors directly to my laptop like that.
- DougWebb 5y ago
  The side ports are just USB-C internally, and they're going to release reference materials for people who want to make compatible modules to plug into them.
lioeters 5y ago
Specs Processor Options i5-1135G7 (8M Cache, up to 4.20 GHz) i7-1165G7 (12M Cache, up to 4.70 GHz) i7-1185G7 (12M Cache, up to 4.80 GHz) Operating System Windows 10 Home Windows 10 Pro Storage 256GB NVMe SSD 512GB NVMe SSD 1TB NVMe SSD Memory 8GB DDR4-3200 (1x8GB) 16GB DDR4-3200 (2x8GB) 32GB DDR4-3200 (2x16GB) Connectivity WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.2 WiFi 6 with vPro, Bluetooth 5.2 Weight & Dimensions 1.3kg 15.85mm x 296.63mm x 228.98mm Display 13.5” 3:2 2256x1504, 100% sRGB color gamut, and >400 nit Battery 55Wh Graphics Iris Xe Graphics Camera 1080p 60fps Ports 4x User-selectable Expansion Cards 3.5mm combo headphone jack Biometrics Fingerprint Reader Keyboard Backlit Power Adapter 60W USB-C
binarysaurus 5y ago
Great concept. Would love to see a larger version with the same aspect ratio and peripherals.
fyzix 5y ago
A 16 or 17 inch version would be perfect...bigger battery and more space for modules.
nfgrep 5y ago
I feel like a lower res screen at this size would be justified to stretch that battery life out a little longer
danielEM 5y ago
I see the idea of "phone bricks" finally moved to laptops and that is cool. But in order to lift off that concept has to be open in terms of electrical and mechanical specifications. Otherwise I think it will be just another minor unsignificant event on laptops market.
- sldksk 5y ago
  What is a “phone brick?”
  - danielEM 5y ago
    Sorry I meant phone blocks https://www.onearmy.earth/project/phonebloks https://www.onearmy.earth/project/phonebloks
andreareina 5y ago
Looks good and if it had support for linux this would be an instant buy for me. Unfortunately "We're working with some of the most popular Linux distributions on testing and support, and we'll publish step by step guides on setup for those." is not quite it.
- sldksk 5y ago
  Same. Linux support would have me aggressively clicking to reserve a spot on the wait list.
unicornporn 5y ago
Do they have plans to extend business to the EU? Buying one from here is not feasible considering toll fees, VAT additions and all that.
supert56 5y ago
This is very cool. I’d also like to see a Linux version. Also looking at their job spec for full stack developers and nice to see a company focused on server rendered html. No react, no graphQL, no JSON apis. Should be lightening fast and as a dev I like the fact they are choosing a stack that’s appropriate for their product (an ecom marketplace). I find that a lot of time is lost these days to fixing overly engineered stacks when the end user just wants to see a pretty simple, nicely designed HTML page at the end.
jmrm 5y ago
The only thing I would change would be the screen. One with more nits would be really nice, and having a Ryzen version of this would also be nice, but I totally understand the availability problems of AMD processors nowadays. The rest of the laptop is pretty good. Being able to change components, even the CPU and the side connectors, is a lot to a thin and modern laptop that cost around $1000. I hope we have soon some 3rd-party analysis to know how well they are made. After having a laptop with hinge and structural problems with totally fine hardware, it's a big deal for me.
andrewmackrodt 5y ago
This looks very impressive, high specification available, 3:2 high resolution screen, but with a "sensible" resolution where it should be comfortable to run at 100% scaling and the customisability of the IO ports is very unique. Depending on the Linux compatibility of these I will definitely be interested once there are GB keyboard layouts available.
lrvick 5y ago
Without support for an open source OS and ideally open schematics, bootloader, etc, these are doomed to become unsupported and in landfills like everything else. Just more marketing with promises they can't keep. If companies want to be honest about providing consumer repairable products they should behave as though they will go out of business at any time... Which incidentally might earn them the respect and endorsement of people that understand how supply chains work to help keep them in business. Yes I am going to be that guy. Open everything or please don't pretend to care about changing anything. Compare to Raptor Engineering that opens almost literally everything they possibly can. It may be expensive but when you buy a Talos II it is yours. Also made in the US.
rasputnik6502 5y ago
That's a nice laptop However it's unclear from the website how exactly does it differ from other well-established laptop brands. Not talking about Apple here, but take Dell for example - Dells are DIY-repairable to some extent and you can replace some of the components, even 'consumable' parts like keyboard, trackpad or screen. So let's treat this as baseline - how Framework improves on that?

80 points by spurgu 5y ago

This is extremely cool. Is it possible to build custom modules for the laptop? I would love adding GPIO or sensors directly to my laptop like that.

DougWebb 5y ago
The side ports are just USB-C internally, and they're going to release reference materials for people who want to make compatible modules to plug into them.

lioeters 5y ago

Specs Processor Options i5-1135G7 (8M Cache, up to 4.20 GHz) i7-1165G7 (12M Cache, up to 4.70 GHz) i7-1185G7 (12M Cache, up to 4.80 GHz) Operating System Windows 10 Home Windows 10 Pro Storage 256GB NVMe SSD 512GB NVMe SSD 1TB NVMe SSD Memory 8GB DDR4-3200 (1x8GB) 16GB DDR4-3200 (2x8GB) 32GB DDR4-3200 (2x16GB) Connectivity WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.2 WiFi 6 with vPro, Bluetooth 5.2 Weight & Dimensions 1.3kg 15.85mm x 296.63mm x 228.98mm Display 13.5” 3:2 2256x1504, 100% sRGB color gamut, and >400 nit Battery 55Wh Graphics Iris Xe Graphics Camera 1080p 60fps Ports 4x User-selectable Expansion Cards 3.5mm combo headphone jack Biometrics Fingerprint Reader Keyboard Backlit Power Adapter 60W USB-C

binarysaurus 5y ago

Great concept. Would love to see a larger version with the same aspect ratio and peripherals.

fyzix 5y ago

A 16 or 17 inch version would be perfect...bigger battery and more space for modules.

nfgrep 5y ago

I feel like a lower res screen at this size would be justified to stretch that battery life out a little longer

danielEM 5y ago

I see the idea of "phone bricks" finally moved to laptops and that is cool. But in order to lift off that concept has to be open in terms of electrical and mechanical specifications. Otherwise I think it will be just another minor unsignificant event on laptops market.

sldksk 5y ago
What is a “phone brick?”
- danielEM 5y ago
  Sorry I meant phone blocks https://www.onearmy.earth/project/phonebloks https://www.onearmy.earth/project/phonebloks

andreareina 5y ago

Looks good and if it had support for linux this would be an instant buy for me. Unfortunately "We're working with some of the most popular Linux distributions on testing and support, and we'll publish step by step guides on setup for those." is not quite it.

sldksk 5y ago
Same. Linux support would have me aggressively clicking to reserve a spot on the wait list.

unicornporn 5y ago

Do they have plans to extend business to the EU? Buying one from here is not feasible considering toll fees, VAT additions and all that.

supert56 5y ago

This is very cool. I’d also like to see a Linux version. Also looking at their job spec for full stack developers and nice to see a company focused on server rendered html. No react, no graphQL, no JSON apis. Should be lightening fast and as a dev I like the fact they are choosing a stack that’s appropriate for their product (an ecom marketplace). I find that a lot of time is lost these days to fixing overly engineered stacks when the end user just wants to see a pretty simple, nicely designed HTML page at the end.

jmrm 5y ago

The only thing I would change would be the screen. One with more nits would be really nice, and having a Ryzen version of this would also be nice, but I totally understand the availability problems of AMD processors nowadays. The rest of the laptop is pretty good. Being able to change components, even the CPU and the side connectors, is a lot to a thin and modern laptop that cost around $1000. I hope we have soon some 3rd-party analysis to know how well they are made. After having a laptop with hinge and structural problems with totally fine hardware, it's a big deal for me.

andrewmackrodt 5y ago

This looks very impressive, high specification available, 3:2 high resolution screen, but with a "sensible" resolution where it should be comfortable to run at 100% scaling and the customisability of the IO ports is very unique. Depending on the Linux compatibility of these I will definitely be interested once there are GB keyboard layouts available.

lrvick 5y ago

Without support for an open source OS and ideally open schematics, bootloader, etc, these are doomed to become unsupported and in landfills like everything else. Just more marketing with promises they can't keep. If companies want to be honest about providing consumer repairable products they should behave as though they will go out of business at any time... Which incidentally might earn them the respect and endorsement of people that understand how supply chains work to help keep them in business. Yes I am going to be that guy. Open everything or please don't pretend to care about changing anything. Compare to Raptor Engineering that opens almost literally everything they possibly can. It may be expensive but when you buy a Talos II it is yours. Also made in the US.

rasputnik6502 5y ago

That's a nice laptop However it's unclear from the website how exactly does it differ from other well-established laptop brands. Not talking about Apple here, but take Dell for example - Dells are DIY-repairable to some extent and you can replace some of the components, even 'consumable' parts like keyboard, trackpad or screen. So let's treat this as baseline - how Framework improves on that?