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He is childish. He had record breaking flame war in HN.

by v8dev123 5y ago

matheusmoreira 5y ago
What was it about? Link?
- suby 5y ago
  I'm assuming that he's referring to this thread, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20229632 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20229632
  - klyrs 5y ago
    A key feature of a "flame war" is long chains of responses. By not responding to amedvednikov, AndyKelley did not participate in a flame war on that post. It was a call-out. His criticism was quite relevant at the time, because the article was a false release announcement, and the project was garnering a lot of attention (and taking people's money) by making outlandish claims, with (at the time) nothing to show for it.
    - v8dev123 5y ago
      There were many posts both in HN and outside HN including Github, Reddit, Twitter. His criticism is not constructive. He had Linus style comments.
      - klyrs 5y ago
        There is no such thing as "constructive criticism" of suspected fraud -- there were a bunch of red flags, and AK was not remotely alone in sounding the alarm. Do you have constructive criticism to offer, is AK still badgering AN, or are you just airing grievances about 2 year-old drama?
        AndyKelley 5y ago
        For the record this was my last public statement about V, which I made nearly 2 years ago: https://twitter.com/andy_kelley/status/1142503808901308418 https://twitter.com/andy_kelley/status/1142503808901308418 ends with "I'm genuinely glad it turned out this way. Good luck on your endeavor and welcome to the programming languages club."
        matheusmoreira 5y ago
        Thank you for building Zig. It's made a huge impression on me, especially the Road to Zig presentation.
        v8dev123 5y ago
        > There is no such thing as "constructive criticism" of suspected fraud You can criticize anyone constructively. What they are today is not what they are in the future. People can change even Andrew, but if something is repeated over and over, it is a sign of their personality. I see his act as harassment. I know that Vlang had red flags, but I feel Russophobia or Jealousy in his actions. I looked through everything, but the guy didn't let the man talk and explain himself. So, the other side of the story is hushed up. It's like asking someone to prove their worth, otherwise they'll be killed. Naive Bayes can uncover many cases of fraud, but bias can turn things upside down. I'd hope that Mr Andrew is not an Anarchist.
        klyrs 5y ago
        > You can criticize anyone constructively Please, show us how that's done. Otherwise, please stop. AK's last word on the matter was rather cordial, and what you're doing here is toxic.

He is childish. He had record breaking flame war in HN.

matheusmoreira 5y ago

What was it about? Link?

suby 5y ago
I'm assuming that he's referring to this thread, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20229632 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20229632
- klyrs 5y ago
  A key feature of a "flame war" is long chains of responses. By not responding to amedvednikov, AndyKelley did not participate in a flame war on that post. It was a call-out. His criticism was quite relevant at the time, because the article was a false release announcement, and the project was garnering a lot of attention (and taking people's money) by making outlandish claims, with (at the time) nothing to show for it.
  - v8dev123 5y ago
    There were many posts both in HN and outside HN including Github, Reddit, Twitter. His criticism is not constructive. He had Linus style comments.
    - klyrs 5y ago
      There is no such thing as "constructive criticism" of suspected fraud -- there were a bunch of red flags, and AK was not remotely alone in sounding the alarm. Do you have constructive criticism to offer, is AK still badgering AN, or are you just airing grievances about 2 year-old drama?
      - AndyKelley 5y ago
        For the record this was my last public statement about V, which I made nearly 2 years ago: https://twitter.com/andy_kelley/status/1142503808901308418 https://twitter.com/andy_kelley/status/1142503808901308418 ends with "I'm genuinely glad it turned out this way. Good luck on your endeavor and welcome to the programming languages club."
        matheusmoreira 5y ago
        Thank you for building Zig. It's made a huge impression on me, especially the Road to Zig presentation.
      - v8dev123 5y ago
        > There is no such thing as "constructive criticism" of suspected fraud You can criticize anyone constructively. What they are today is not what they are in the future. People can change even Andrew, but if something is repeated over and over, it is a sign of their personality. I see his act as harassment. I know that Vlang had red flags, but I feel Russophobia or Jealousy in his actions. I looked through everything, but the guy didn't let the man talk and explain himself. So, the other side of the story is hushed up. It's like asking someone to prove their worth, otherwise they'll be killed. Naive Bayes can uncover many cases of fraud, but bias can turn things upside down. I'd hope that Mr Andrew is not an Anarchist.
        klyrs 5y ago
        > You can criticize anyone constructively Please, show us how that's done. Otherwise, please stop. AK's last word on the matter was rather cordial, and what you're doing here is toxic.