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This person should not have a driver's license. Proof that it is too easy to obtain a driver's license.

ghaff 5y ago
I agree about the first part and I would certainly hope it gets suspended. But, assuming he actually does know how to drive, how could/should he have been prevented from obtaining a driver's license in the first place?
- mitchdoogle 5y ago
  Presumably if it is more costly to obtain a license (either in time, effort, or money) then people would be more careful about their behavior and wouldn't risk losing their license that they spent so much effort to obtain on something stupid like this.
sigstoat 5y ago
are you suggesting psychological testing to get a license? because bizarre attention-seeking behavior seems to be this fellow's only problem.
chrisseaton 5y ago
How would you change the test to exclude people like him from passing?
- deleted 5y ago
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- annoyingnoob 5y ago
  Not sure its about exclusion as much as causing one to take it more seriously. Maybe the solution is to take it away for a while when you've been reckless, instead of letting you offend over and over.
annoyingnoob 5y ago
I think Japan's tiered licensing is interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_license_in_Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_license_in_Japan Semi-autonomous vehicles are a new thing, maybe it should require new training. I also think that Tesla's marketing is misleading: https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/autopilot
- TchoBeer 5y ago
  Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but Japan's system seems pretty standard. New York's for comparison: https://dmv.ny.gov/driver-license/nys-driver-license-classes https://dmv.ny.gov/driver-license/nys-driver-license-classes In general, a "learner's permit", "license", and "license for driving commercial vehicles" is a pretty common tiered system that I think is common.
  - annoyingnoob 5y ago
    Accreditation for the size of vehicle which affects number of passengers, not sure you can just jump right to the top. My understanding is that you have to start small, I could be wrong.
    - fomine3 5y ago
      But it won't help in this case because they drove just a car.
aaomidi 5y ago
A drivers license is literally required to live in the US. We've had to make it easy because if we don't, we deprive literally millions of people from the ability to feed themselves. Until we get better city design and layout, we won't be able to make driver licenses stricter.
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  What do people do in the US when they can't drive for many other reasons, such as blindness, epilepsy, etc?
  - ghaff 5y ago
    Of course, you don't literally (in the proper meaning) sense need a driver's license to live in the US. However, your living, working, shopping, entertainment, etc. options are much reduced unless you have enough money to have people drive you everywhere and/or run errands for you. But I basically couldn't live in my current house if I couldn't drive.
  - aaomidi 5y ago
    Life is extremely fucking hard for them.

I agree about the first part and I would certainly hope it gets suspended. But, assuming he actually does know how to drive, how could/should he have been prevented from obtaining a driver's license in the first place?

mitchdoogle 5y ago
Presumably if it is more costly to obtain a license (either in time, effort, or money) then people would be more careful about their behavior and wouldn't risk losing their license that they spent so much effort to obtain on something stupid like this.

sigstoat 5y ago

are you suggesting psychological testing to get a license? because bizarre attention-seeking behavior seems to be this fellow's only problem.

chrisseaton 5y ago

How would you change the test to exclude people like him from passing?

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annoyingnoob 5y ago
Not sure its about exclusion as much as causing one to take it more seriously. Maybe the solution is to take it away for a while when you've been reckless, instead of letting you offend over and over.

annoyingnoob 5y ago

I think Japan's tiered licensing is interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_license_in_Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_license_in_Japan Semi-autonomous vehicles are a new thing, maybe it should require new training. I also think that Tesla's marketing is misleading: https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/autopilot

TchoBeer 5y ago
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but Japan's system seems pretty standard. New York's for comparison: https://dmv.ny.gov/driver-license/nys-driver-license-classes https://dmv.ny.gov/driver-license/nys-driver-license-classes In general, a "learner's permit", "license", and "license for driving commercial vehicles" is a pretty common tiered system that I think is common.
- annoyingnoob 5y ago
  Accreditation for the size of vehicle which affects number of passengers, not sure you can just jump right to the top. My understanding is that you have to start small, I could be wrong.
  - fomine3 5y ago
    But it won't help in this case because they drove just a car.

aaomidi 5y ago

A drivers license is literally required to live in the US. We've had to make it easy because if we don't, we deprive literally millions of people from the ability to feed themselves. Until we get better city design and layout, we won't be able to make driver licenses stricter.

chrisseaton 5y ago
What do people do in the US when they can't drive for many other reasons, such as blindness, epilepsy, etc?
- ghaff 5y ago
  Of course, you don't literally (in the proper meaning) sense need a driver's license to live in the US. However, your living, working, shopping, entertainment, etc. options are much reduced unless you have enough money to have people drive you everywhere and/or run errands for you. But I basically couldn't live in my current house if I couldn't drive.
- aaomidi 5y ago
  Life is extremely fucking hard for them.