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Hi, I'm with Lisperati and we're working hard to manufacture these. Feel free to ask any questions. No, we don't know when they'll be ready, but when they are r

by drcode 5y ago

Hi, I'm with Lisperati and we're working hard to manufacture these. Feel free to ask any questions. No, we don't know when they'll be ready, but when they are ready we will sell them directly (no presale/crowdfunding/etc) Also: we already have DIY build instructions with STL files available at lisperaticomputers.com. However, the official device will have an aluminum enclosure.

nanna 5y ago
> we're working hard to manufacture these. Really exciting! Assumedly it's Linux under the hood, and you'd be able to install whatever packages normally available through, say apt? So this could this be used for writing LaTeX, for example? Also and tangentially, has there been any progress with Walking Dream? http://walkingdre.am/ http://walkingdre.am/
- slim 5y ago
  It's raspbian under the hood
  - nanna 5y ago
    Apologies, read the post too quickly. Thanks.
- drcode 5y ago
  LOL I've built a lot of tech for walkingdre.am, but my best prototype so far just isn't "fun" enough (based on a highly subjective definition of "fun") so I'm stuck at the moment, trying to improve that aspect of the game (particularly, the combat and crafting system)
  - ribs 5y ago
    Post updates sign-up page is broken, so I’m not sure if I’m subscribed. I’m an Oculus Quest user and really want to try a redirected walking game so I need those updates!
    - drcode 5y ago
      Oh yeah, there was a mailchimp issue, I will look into it.
  - nanna 5y ago
    Be interesting to see demos of where it's at!
7thaccount 5y ago
I'm thinking of purchasing one. Is it essentially just Linux with Lisp packages setup on top, or running some custom lisp OS on top of whatever is running on the pi?
- drcode 5y ago
  To be honest, there's not much "lispy" about it, aside from the branding. It's a bog standard raspi cyberdeck, at least initially out of the gate.
  - 7thaccount 5y ago
    Gotcha, thanks!
  - codezero 5y ago
    Had I known that I would have probably been more inclined to immediately read more! I love lisps, but didn't need/want a dedicated machine, I feel foolish for assuming it wasn't something more straight forward :)
ashton314 5y ago
Tell me more about the keyboard: can I reprogram it if I want? Looks mechanical; can I pick/replace my key switches? Is it running the QMK firmware? I would have killed to have one of these things in high school. A broken Lisp on a TI-84 just doesn’t cut it…
- drcode 5y ago
  The keyboard is borrowed from a Vortex Core. It is fully programmable. It unfortunately does not support QMK, but is still quite good.
Abishek_Muthian 5y ago
Is the 8.8" ultrawide display from Waveshare? I'm seeing it becoming a standard with cyberdecks nowadays[1] but how is the longevity of the display? All the best with Lisperati! [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberDeck/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberDeck/
- drcode 5y ago
  Everyone is using pretty much the same screen, model HSD088PW1. As for longevity, I guess if I'm honest I have to say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you think this is a concern and think you know how to resolve the question and are an engineer with expertise in this subject matter, we'd be happy to talk to get a firmer answer.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
facorreia 5y ago
What's the value proposition over a more general-purpose portable computer like a MacBook Air?
- drcode 5y ago
  The primary benefit over a Macbook Air is the full size 40% mechanical keyboard. Other advantages are hackability, smaller footprint, quicker access without having to open screen, more inconspicuous when using in public space. But this is very much a "niche" device, if you are questioning if it would be useful, you almost certainly should get a general-purpose device like a macbook, instead.
  - facorreia 5y ago
    Thanks, that clears it up.
1MachineElf 5y ago
Would I be able to put a Planck (instead of the Vortex Core) into the aluminum enclosure version?
- drcode 5y ago
  I bought a Planck specifically to answer this question. Unfortunately, it has a significantly bigger footprint than a vortex core, so it would be difficult.
  - RodgerTheGreat 5y ago
    That's surprising. From the photo's top row, it looks like the Lisperati's keyboard is a key wider than the 12x4 Planck. Does the Vortex use smaller caps?
    - drcode 5y ago
      I believe it's a bit taller than the vortex core. I think the key caps rows are spaced further apart, though both have 4 rows.
  - rcarmo 5y ago
    That’s too bad. I’ve been hoping the keyboard could be swapped out with something running QMK, but I’ve also been searching for a low-profile, Bluetooth Planck and realize there actually isn’t that much variety out there.

by drcode 5y ago

nanna 5y ago

> we're working hard to manufacture these. Really exciting! Assumedly it's Linux under the hood, and you'd be able to install whatever packages normally available through, say apt? So this could this be used for writing LaTeX, for example? Also and tangentially, has there been any progress with Walking Dream? http://walkingdre.am/ http://walkingdre.am/

slim 5y ago
It's raspbian under the hood
- nanna 5y ago
  Apologies, read the post too quickly. Thanks.
drcode 5y ago
LOL I've built a lot of tech for walkingdre.am, but my best prototype so far just isn't "fun" enough (based on a highly subjective definition of "fun") so I'm stuck at the moment, trying to improve that aspect of the game (particularly, the combat and crafting system)
- ribs 5y ago
  Post updates sign-up page is broken, so I’m not sure if I’m subscribed. I’m an Oculus Quest user and really want to try a redirected walking game so I need those updates!
  - drcode 5y ago
    Oh yeah, there was a mailchimp issue, I will look into it.
- nanna 5y ago
  Be interesting to see demos of where it's at!

7thaccount 5y ago

I'm thinking of purchasing one. Is it essentially just Linux with Lisp packages setup on top, or running some custom lisp OS on top of whatever is running on the pi?

drcode 5y ago
To be honest, there's not much "lispy" about it, aside from the branding. It's a bog standard raspi cyberdeck, at least initially out of the gate.
- 7thaccount 5y ago
  Gotcha, thanks!
- codezero 5y ago
  Had I known that I would have probably been more inclined to immediately read more! I love lisps, but didn't need/want a dedicated machine, I feel foolish for assuming it wasn't something more straight forward :)

ashton314 5y ago

Tell me more about the keyboard: can I reprogram it if I want? Looks mechanical; can I pick/replace my key switches? Is it running the QMK firmware? I would have killed to have one of these things in high school. A broken Lisp on a TI-84 just doesn’t cut it…

drcode 5y ago
The keyboard is borrowed from a Vortex Core. It is fully programmable. It unfortunately does not support QMK, but is still quite good.

Abishek_Muthian 5y ago

Is the 8.8" ultrawide display from Waveshare? I'm seeing it becoming a standard with cyberdecks nowadays[1] but how is the longevity of the display? All the best with Lisperati! [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberDeck/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberDeck/

drcode 5y ago
Everyone is using pretty much the same screen, model HSD088PW1. As for longevity, I guess if I'm honest I have to say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you think this is a concern and think you know how to resolve the question and are an engineer with expertise in this subject matter, we'd be happy to talk to get a firmer answer.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]

facorreia 5y ago

What's the value proposition over a more general-purpose portable computer like a MacBook Air?

drcode 5y ago
The primary benefit over a Macbook Air is the full size 40% mechanical keyboard. Other advantages are hackability, smaller footprint, quicker access without having to open screen, more inconspicuous when using in public space. But this is very much a "niche" device, if you are questioning if it would be useful, you almost certainly should get a general-purpose device like a macbook, instead.
- facorreia 5y ago
  Thanks, that clears it up.

1MachineElf 5y ago

Would I be able to put a Planck (instead of the Vortex Core) into the aluminum enclosure version?

drcode 5y ago
I bought a Planck specifically to answer this question. Unfortunately, it has a significantly bigger footprint than a vortex core, so it would be difficult.
- RodgerTheGreat 5y ago
  That's surprising. From the photo's top row, it looks like the Lisperati's keyboard is a key wider than the 12x4 Planck. Does the Vortex use smaller caps?
  - drcode 5y ago
    I believe it's a bit taller than the vortex core. I think the key caps rows are spaced further apart, though both have 4 rows.
- rcarmo 5y ago
  That’s too bad. I’ve been hoping the keyboard could be swapped out with something running QMK, but I’ve also been searching for a low-profile, Bluetooth Planck and realize there actually isn’t that much variety out there.