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I'm sorry but I can't express myself in a "less poetic form", because this space is not suitable for in-depth conversation and also because I don't have enough

I'm sorry but I can't express myself in a "less poetic form", because this space is not suitable for in-depth conversation and also because I don't have enough domain over the language. There's a book I can recommend though: Society of the Spectacle, Guy Debord, 1967.

sbr464 5y ago
I rather liked and prefer your poetic form.
oblio 5y ago
Writing concise yet non cryptic messages is both an art and a skill. Might be worth practicing.
- gverrilla 5y ago
  Everything is cryptic before we understand it. When we talk for instance about Google, governments, fines, power balance, etc, we're refering at least to an immense superposition of complex systems, or perhaps you could say an hypercomplexity, or perhaps totality may be the best word depending on your perspective. In that context, my cryptic poetics only constitute an heuristic which has the intent to provoke thought, because I do not wish to abandon the totality point of view, and that would be impossible otherwise in a space like this where concision is the rule. I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say - although it took me 20 minutes to write this short reply, I'm still not confident it will adequately communicate what I'm thinking or purvey the apropriate "emotionality", which is rather cultural in essence.
  - jamescostian 5y ago
    I'd like to help you see how to write more concise messages. Here's how I'd rewrite your entire message: "This is a very complex subject matter, and I don't know how to express my thoughts on it concisely. I don't want to get downvoted for my long-windedness." It's less than a 1/5 of characters, but conveys just as much of the on-topic and non-meta parts of your response.
    - oblio 5y ago
      Yeah, but then he wouldn't get to feel smart and make fun of me :-)
      - gverrilla 5y ago
        Making fun of you?
    - gverrilla 5y ago
      Is this a joke?
      - jamescostian 5y ago
        No. Truly, the 2 sentences I provided were made of all the real meaning I could find in your paragraph that was relevant to oblio's messages you were replying to, even after re-reading your message several times. Judging by the upvotes I have received, other readers also agree that my summary was a good summary of your comment. I'd encourage you to practice making that paragraph you wrote smaller, with a goal of reaching a length similar to my rewrite's length. It's something I've been doing more often to make my own messages more concise, and it has definitely helped.

sbr464 5y ago

I rather liked and prefer your poetic form.

oblio 5y ago

Writing concise yet non cryptic messages is both an art and a skill. Might be worth practicing.

gverrilla 5y ago
Everything is cryptic before we understand it. When we talk for instance about Google, governments, fines, power balance, etc, we're refering at least to an immense superposition of complex systems, or perhaps you could say an hypercomplexity, or perhaps totality may be the best word depending on your perspective. In that context, my cryptic poetics only constitute an heuristic which has the intent to provoke thought, because I do not wish to abandon the totality point of view, and that would be impossible otherwise in a space like this where concision is the rule. I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say - although it took me 20 minutes to write this short reply, I'm still not confident it will adequately communicate what I'm thinking or purvey the apropriate "emotionality", which is rather cultural in essence.
- jamescostian 5y ago
  I'd like to help you see how to write more concise messages. Here's how I'd rewrite your entire message: "This is a very complex subject matter, and I don't know how to express my thoughts on it concisely. I don't want to get downvoted for my long-windedness." It's less than a 1/5 of characters, but conveys just as much of the on-topic and non-meta parts of your response.
  - oblio 5y ago
    Yeah, but then he wouldn't get to feel smart and make fun of me :-)
    - gverrilla 5y ago
      Making fun of you?
  - gverrilla 5y ago
    Is this a joke?
    - jamescostian 5y ago
      No. Truly, the 2 sentences I provided were made of all the real meaning I could find in your paragraph that was relevant to oblio's messages you were replying to, even after re-reading your message several times. Judging by the upvotes I have received, other readers also agree that my summary was a good summary of your comment. I'd encourage you to practice making that paragraph you wrote smaller, with a goal of reaching a length similar to my rewrite's length. It's something I've been doing more often to make my own messages more concise, and it has definitely helped.