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On the contrary a lot of English educated elite are beholden to the pre-modi power elite, a relic of the colonial continuum. Meaning a lot of "moderators" are

On the contrary a lot of English educated elite are beholden to the pre-modi power elite, a relic of the colonial continuum. Meaning a lot of "moderators" are conditioned to be anti-modi and anti-hindu and pro communist or Islamic inspite of India's tragic history with both.

majjgepolja 5y ago
Bruh. > anti-modi and anti-hindu and pro communist or Islamic You can be anti modi without being Anti Hindu. Lot of educated people are pretty rational. Opposing Hindu votebank politics is not anti Hindu. (Of course there are a bunch of liberal arts graduates posing as liberals but being actually anti Hindu, but no way they constitute the majority of "English educated elite".) your comment sounds like a collection of all insults that extreme right wingers throw around a lot. Sounds like you grew up in an upper caste household with all those conspiracy theories of India being suppressed from being a superpower by outside powers and colonial tendencies. I know this happens because I grew up in similar environment. :(
- naruvimama 5y ago
  And you sound like someone who grew up in a elitist cocoon, parroting "pseudo liberal" wishy washy. Unlike Nazis, colonialism did not face trial, so it continues on in its many old ways.
  - majjgepolja 5y ago
    > And you sound like someone who grew up in a elitist cocoon, parroting "pseudo liberal" wishy washy. I grew up in a Brahmin household, and that's part of why I came to dislike and question all religions. I am not some pseudo liberal like you'd like to dismiss of (If you read my comment carefully, you will observe I have bashed them too). The biggest problem is elitist attitude among ourselves. We should accept we were not some innately superior civilization that somehow got looted and screwed by colonialists, and that we have things to learn from outside as well. That's what the right wingers in India would never get. Savarkar must be crying in the heaven seeing all nonsense "right wingers" perpetrate today.
    - naruvimama 5y ago
      We are from an ex-colony where English language skills is confused with intelligence. You as well as the leftists are part of this elite. You really need to read my first comment carefully before using your libed powered psychoanalyst powers. It is the western, Islamic and communist countries that want to export their ideology, not us.
      - majjgepolja 5y ago
        > You really need to read my first comment carefully before using your libed powered psychoanalyst powers. Your first comment was just a blanket name calling lumping everyone you disagree with as anti Hindu anti Modi and COMMUNIST [sic]. Before talking about liberal education, realize your faction of extreme nationalists is busy perpetrating nonsense about vedic indians having invented all science and whatnot. I call out anything I perceive as biased, no matter right or left wing. > You as well as the leftists are part of this elite. Assume everyone you disagree with is elite, conveniently ignoring the 2000 years of religious elitism, ultimately leading to rise of a lazy preisthood to prominence, in midst of which we lost half of the country to invaders. If the europeans you hate so much did not colonize us, we would be under even more shitty religious rulers for more years. Hating colonialists is just a trend among right wingers, conveniently ignoring that was the game then. You can't paste history with black and white. We cannot play victim card here, brother. > It is the western, Islamic and communist countries that want to export their ideology, not us. Sort of, because our Rightwing ideology is not concerned about every nation. Otherwise you guys would be trying to propagate it as well. Not to mention you speak as if all these are united conspiracy to suppress some "superpower India". Every fucking religion tried to spread itself. Even Vedic religion spread itself to South India through Brahmin migrations. Communism and western wokeism are just that - some kind of religions thinking everything can be painted black or white. We need to be aware of them, but thinking they are a unified conspiracy against Indian corrupt incumbents who claim themselves to be "Dharma Rakshakas" is stupid beyond imagination.
        naruvimama 5y ago
        I use the phrase "a lot" and "conditioned", precisely because the leftist/communist hold on education, transfered from the colonialist/church. The colonialism narrative of every native civilization is to demonize them. The fact that you believe it is that you have accepted the white man's burden line, hook and sinker. If you can not be helpful at least stop being a Macauly's sepoy. Every civilization is built on a unifying grand narrative, real or imagined. There is nothing in the Hindutva grand narrative that involves wiping out other civilizations or dominating/enslaving them. I see no harm in indulging in it. Especially when every other alternative involves wiping us out. And stop bragging about your Brahmin background. 90% of Brahmins will sell their identity for a dollar and munch on beef burgers given a chance. Identity and culture is the only valuable thing that 90% of poor Indians inherit from their ancestors and it is important for them to preserve it.
- naruvimama 5y ago
  Hindus do not have a consolidated vote bank unlike Muslims or Christians where commandments are passed on whom to choose. If you selectively attack Hindus or Hindu vote bank that makes you anti-hindu.
- naruvimama 5y ago
  A broader opinion https://youtu.be/4Mk1ziy0egw https://youtu.be/4Mk1ziy0egw

majjgepolja 5y ago

Bruh. > anti-modi and anti-hindu and pro communist or Islamic You can be anti modi without being Anti Hindu. Lot of educated people are pretty rational. Opposing Hindu votebank politics is not anti Hindu. (Of course there are a bunch of liberal arts graduates posing as liberals but being actually anti Hindu, but no way they constitute the majority of "English educated elite".) your comment sounds like a collection of all insults that extreme right wingers throw around a lot. Sounds like you grew up in an upper caste household with all those conspiracy theories of India being suppressed from being a superpower by outside powers and colonial tendencies. I know this happens because I grew up in similar environment. :(

naruvimama 5y ago
And you sound like someone who grew up in a elitist cocoon, parroting "pseudo liberal" wishy washy. Unlike Nazis, colonialism did not face trial, so it continues on in its many old ways.
- majjgepolja 5y ago
  > And you sound like someone who grew up in a elitist cocoon, parroting "pseudo liberal" wishy washy. I grew up in a Brahmin household, and that's part of why I came to dislike and question all religions. I am not some pseudo liberal like you'd like to dismiss of (If you read my comment carefully, you will observe I have bashed them too). The biggest problem is elitist attitude among ourselves. We should accept we were not some innately superior civilization that somehow got looted and screwed by colonialists, and that we have things to learn from outside as well. That's what the right wingers in India would never get. Savarkar must be crying in the heaven seeing all nonsense "right wingers" perpetrate today.
  - naruvimama 5y ago
    We are from an ex-colony where English language skills is confused with intelligence. You as well as the leftists are part of this elite. You really need to read my first comment carefully before using your libed powered psychoanalyst powers. It is the western, Islamic and communist countries that want to export their ideology, not us.
    - majjgepolja 5y ago
      > You really need to read my first comment carefully before using your libed powered psychoanalyst powers. Your first comment was just a blanket name calling lumping everyone you disagree with as anti Hindu anti Modi and COMMUNIST [sic]. Before talking about liberal education, realize your faction of extreme nationalists is busy perpetrating nonsense about vedic indians having invented all science and whatnot. I call out anything I perceive as biased, no matter right or left wing. > You as well as the leftists are part of this elite. Assume everyone you disagree with is elite, conveniently ignoring the 2000 years of religious elitism, ultimately leading to rise of a lazy preisthood to prominence, in midst of which we lost half of the country to invaders. If the europeans you hate so much did not colonize us, we would be under even more shitty religious rulers for more years. Hating colonialists is just a trend among right wingers, conveniently ignoring that was the game then. You can't paste history with black and white. We cannot play victim card here, brother. > It is the western, Islamic and communist countries that want to export their ideology, not us. Sort of, because our Rightwing ideology is not concerned about every nation. Otherwise you guys would be trying to propagate it as well. Not to mention you speak as if all these are united conspiracy to suppress some "superpower India". Every fucking religion tried to spread itself. Even Vedic religion spread itself to South India through Brahmin migrations. Communism and western wokeism are just that - some kind of religions thinking everything can be painted black or white. We need to be aware of them, but thinking they are a unified conspiracy against Indian corrupt incumbents who claim themselves to be "Dharma Rakshakas" is stupid beyond imagination.
      - naruvimama 5y ago
        I use the phrase "a lot" and "conditioned", precisely because the leftist/communist hold on education, transfered from the colonialist/church. The colonialism narrative of every native civilization is to demonize them. The fact that you believe it is that you have accepted the white man's burden line, hook and sinker. If you can not be helpful at least stop being a Macauly's sepoy. Every civilization is built on a unifying grand narrative, real or imagined. There is nothing in the Hindutva grand narrative that involves wiping out other civilizations or dominating/enslaving them. I see no harm in indulging in it. Especially when every other alternative involves wiping us out. And stop bragging about your Brahmin background. 90% of Brahmins will sell their identity for a dollar and munch on beef burgers given a chance. Identity and culture is the only valuable thing that 90% of poor Indians inherit from their ancestors and it is important for them to preserve it.
naruvimama 5y ago
Hindus do not have a consolidated vote bank unlike Muslims or Christians where commandments are passed on whom to choose. If you selectively attack Hindus or Hindu vote bank that makes you anti-hindu.
naruvimama 5y ago
A broader opinion https://youtu.be/4Mk1ziy0egw https://youtu.be/4Mk1ziy0egw