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>>Just as our common sense, which favors functional societies, sees taxation as just. Our commen sense has nothing to do with support for income taxation. The
by CryptoPunk 5y ago
>>Just as our common sense, which favors functional societies, sees taxation as just.
Our commen sense has nothing to do with support for income taxation. The system of taxation is too complex, and has too many intermediaries, for the typical person to fully assess it in all of its moral dimensions.
If it were laid bare, without layers of intermediaries obfuscating its nature, and a multitude of ideological and political rhetoric to euphemize it, I believe the vast majority of people would perceive it the same way they would perceive one party, walking up to another, and demanding he hand over half the items he received in trade for the day, or be beaten up.
>>Maybe we don't have this inherent right?
I think that given this belief arises naturally in all social animals, it is a highly functional belief for social groups, and therefore it is in fact inherent to existence as a sentient social being.
- CRConrad 5y agoOh, funny how your common sense just suddenly stopped being able to process stuff once the discussion got to a conclusion you didn't happen to like.
- CryptoPunk 5y agoOnce the issue at hand got to moral perceptions of governments that operate on codes of law hundreds of thousands of pages in size that are administered by 100,000+ people. I don't think it's unreasonable for me to suggest that not everything that public opinion supports is a result of a common sense assessment of all of its aspects. If that were actually the case, we wouldn't need to have courts of law decide on cases. We would just let opinion polls do it. But we do need courts of law, because for complex issues, we need a jury of our peers to deliberate on the issue before reaching a judgment on it.
- CRConrad 5y agoYou're moving the goalposts. Again. Nobody said "common sense assessment of all of its aspects"; just that the idea of "taxation" appears "just" to the "common sense": >>>Just as our common sense, which favors functional societies, sees taxation as just. >>Our commen sense has nothing to do with support for income taxation. Your goalpost-moving started with inserting "income" here. Also, "we need a jury of our peers to deliberate on the issue before reaching a judgment" is not a given. That's one way to reach a judgment, but not the only one.