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What percentage of Bay Area women comprise all women in the world? And what is your definition of most? He is comparing Bay Area women to Eastern European wome

What percentage of Bay Area women comprise all women in the world? And what is your definition of most? He is comparing Bay Area women to Eastern European women.

SirSourdough 5y ago
I don’t believe that you can make a comment as sweeping as “most Bay Area women... are so useless you could trade them for a jerry can of diesel” that doesn’t reflect a stance on all women. There are 7.75 million people in the “Bay Area”, presumably about half women. The idea that you could believe nearly 4 million women with totally disparate histories - only united by currently living in the Bay Area and being women - are mostly useless without making sexist generalizations about women defies credibility in my view. And I used the word “most” because his quote begins “most Bay Area women are soft, cosseted, and naive...” so you’ll have to ask him what he means by “most”.
- Wowfunhappy 5y ago
  Even more importantly IMO, Apple is located in the Bay Area! That means he's speaking about his would-be coworkers and subordinates. I don't see how you could be a good team member if you come with these types of preconceived notions about the other people on the team.
  - chubbyish 5y ago
    Imagine the opposite. You come with a preconceived notion that your colleagues are tough, resilient, uncosseted. It’s simply not true of Bay Area employees. They make huge sums of money and yet you must give them everything they want or they will strike, form unions etc. They are emotionally triggered by words they misinterpret etc. It’s better to be realistic about the people you are going to work with so as to not hurt their feelings. Is this weak? Yes. But I think what they believe in is that it’s okay to be weak and lack emotional resilience, and instead, we should restrict and censure anything and anyone that violates are emotional safety, rather than being strong and building emotional resilience, etc.
- chubbyish 5y ago
  > your comment: most women are worthless If the quote references “Bay Area” women then this is completely different to talking about women in general - which would be sexist. Like many commenters here you are taking the quote out of context. A classic scarecrow argument. Because if we read “Bay area women”, we then have to ask “why does he draw this conclusion about Bay Area women in particular?”. And then it becomes obvious he is comparing them to the Eastern European women he is newly dating. Read the full quote. He should have included Bay Area men too but because he is comparing to his girlfriend it wouldn’t have made sense. > trade for shotgun shells during invasion Most Bay Area people are anti-military and easily offended and need a heap of things to be done for them to feel “safe” and mental support etc. - as is perfectly exemplified in this very drama. This is your Bay Area women he talks about. The point he makes here is that if there was a zombie invasion survival situation (zombies associate with shotguns), it’s unlikely that the people with characteristics I described above would be much help, compared with his Easter European girlfriend who he sees as tougher. This could be said about “bay area people”. It’s honestly funny to think about a Bay Area person fighting a zombie war because of every trivial thing triggers them into an anxiety attack.

What percentage of Bay Area women comprise all women in the world? And what is your definition of most? He is comparing Bay Area women to Eastern European women.

SirSourdough 5y ago

I don’t believe that you can make a comment as sweeping as “most Bay Area women... are so useless you could trade them for a jerry can of diesel” that doesn’t reflect a stance on all women. There are 7.75 million people in the “Bay Area”, presumably about half women. The idea that you could believe nearly 4 million women with totally disparate histories - only united by currently living in the Bay Area and being women - are mostly useless without making sexist generalizations about women defies credibility in my view. And I used the word “most” because his quote begins “most Bay Area women are soft, cosseted, and naive...” so you’ll have to ask him what he means by “most”.

Wowfunhappy 5y ago
Even more importantly IMO, Apple is located in the Bay Area! That means he's speaking about his would-be coworkers and subordinates. I don't see how you could be a good team member if you come with these types of preconceived notions about the other people on the team.
- chubbyish 5y ago
  Imagine the opposite. You come with a preconceived notion that your colleagues are tough, resilient, uncosseted. It’s simply not true of Bay Area employees. They make huge sums of money and yet you must give them everything they want or they will strike, form unions etc. They are emotionally triggered by words they misinterpret etc. It’s better to be realistic about the people you are going to work with so as to not hurt their feelings. Is this weak? Yes. But I think what they believe in is that it’s okay to be weak and lack emotional resilience, and instead, we should restrict and censure anything and anyone that violates are emotional safety, rather than being strong and building emotional resilience, etc.
chubbyish 5y ago
> your comment: most women are worthless If the quote references “Bay Area” women then this is completely different to talking about women in general - which would be sexist. Like many commenters here you are taking the quote out of context. A classic scarecrow argument. Because if we read “Bay area women”, we then have to ask “why does he draw this conclusion about Bay Area women in particular?”. And then it becomes obvious he is comparing them to the Eastern European women he is newly dating. Read the full quote. He should have included Bay Area men too but because he is comparing to his girlfriend it wouldn’t have made sense. > trade for shotgun shells during invasion Most Bay Area people are anti-military and easily offended and need a heap of things to be done for them to feel “safe” and mental support etc. - as is perfectly exemplified in this very drama. This is your Bay Area women he talks about. The point he makes here is that if there was a zombie invasion survival situation (zombies associate with shotguns), it’s unlikely that the people with characteristics I described above would be much help, compared with his Easter European girlfriend who he sees as tougher. This could be said about “bay area people”. It’s honestly funny to think about a Bay Area person fighting a zombie war because of every trivial thing triggers them into an anxiety attack.