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You are justifiably miffed! Return it and get the regular sonicare (eg from Costco) which has no app and no tracking. I am the last person to suggest that an $

You are justifiably miffed! Return it and get the regular sonicare (eg from Costco) which has no app and no tracking. I am the last person to suggest that an $80 toothbrush should replace a free or <$5 toothbrush but this is one of those rare things that are actually worth it. Your teeth feel 10x cleaner.

OJFord 5y ago
I seem to be the only person in the world to have gone in the reverse direction. I use cheap as chips Listerine/Reach manual brushes, brush hard, and replace frequently. My teeth feel 10x cleaner than when I used an electric. (But, I'm British, so my teeth must be awful right? Don't listen to me :) (self-trolling aside, I think that basically comes from 'mall'-based mouth-bleaching being less popular here? i.e. it's like saying someone who doesn't go to a tanning place 'has bad skin'...))
- frickinLasers 5y ago
  1. You're liable to strip the enamel from your teeth and encourage your gums to recede, exposing the roots. 2. With a sonicating toothbrush, I reduced my cleaning visits to once a year because there's usually nothing there for the hygienist to remove. Perhaps you tried the wrong kind of toothbrush? https://www.deltadentalins.com/oral_health/overbrushing.html https://www.deltadentalins.com/oral_health/overbrushing.html
  - OJFord 5y ago
    > I reduced my cleaning visits to once a year because there's usually nothing there for the hygienist to remove. I've never been to an oral hygienist; I go to the dentist once every 12-18 months on his advice. (Though currently almost two years due to the pandemic; emergency appointments only.) > Perhaps you tried the wrong kind of toothbrush? Yeah, there'd always be someone's preferred brand that I didn't try and would be better even if I was saying I liked the one I did - I just don't feel the need to try multiple expensive electric ones when manual seems fine to me, and in adult life at least check-ups have just been 'all good, see you in 12mo'. > https://www.deltadentalins.com/oral_health/overbrushing.html https://www.deltadentalins.com/oral_health/overbrushing.html Perhaps I do brush too hard, I'll try (not doing) that. But that's surely an orthogonal issue, one could (I probably did) brush 'too hard' regardless of whether it's manual or electric.
- climb_stealth 5y ago
  As someone who used to scrub more than brush teeth: According to my dentist brushing too strongly can cause your gums to recede. And apparently they don't recover so damage is permanent. You are meant to use about 80 grams of pressure, which is pretty much none at all. A decent electric toothbrush like a Sonicare feels like it cleans much better with hardly using any pressure. The base models are fine, all the additional options are unnecessary if you just want to brush your teeth. Personally, switching to an electric toothbrush has been the best thing.
  - danielmeskin 5y ago
    This is correct. My gums unfortunately receded and * my teeth are extremely sensitive * the area is sore constantly * I will need a graft from elsewhere in my mouth to correct it.
  - mxxx 5y ago
    yeah my dentist recommended i get an electric brush that warns you if you're applying to much force. turns out i was, a lot.
- executive 5y ago
  "brush hard" is bad advice. Brush very softly. Cheap hardware is fine, just make sure bristles are soft/ultra soft (packaging will say soft somewhere). And you only need to brush each tooth ~6x per side.
alt-enter 5y ago
Hygiene guidelines may prevent OP from returning it if the item is open.
- LegitShady 5y ago
  A store is a store. If he sells toothbrushes he has to take them back if the customer doesn’t want them. If he eats a loss on it, then maybe he should reconsider selling them.
  - alt-enter 5y ago
    Not necessarily. Depending on the country, stores can set their return policy when it comes to non-defective items. I know several major retailers that refuse returns on headphones if they have been opened due to hygiene issues. If the headphones are defective or unopened, then they will accept returns. OP returning a working toothbrush may fall under the same scenario.
    - LegitShady 5y ago
      I consider a toothbrush that requires an app a defective product.
thiht 5y ago
20 bucks electric toothbrushes are the same, no need to spend 80 bucks. Just buy a brand model.

OJFord 5y ago

I seem to be the only person in the world to have gone in the reverse direction. I use cheap as chips Listerine/Reach manual brushes, brush hard, and replace frequently. My teeth feel 10x cleaner than when I used an electric. (But, I'm British, so my teeth must be awful right? Don't listen to me :) (self-trolling aside, I think that basically comes from 'mall'-based mouth-bleaching being less popular here? i.e. it's like saying someone who doesn't go to a tanning place 'has bad skin'...))

frickinLasers 5y ago
1. You're liable to strip the enamel from your teeth and encourage your gums to recede, exposing the roots. 2. With a sonicating toothbrush, I reduced my cleaning visits to once a year because there's usually nothing there for the hygienist to remove. Perhaps you tried the wrong kind of toothbrush? https://www.deltadentalins.com/oral_health/overbrushing.html https://www.deltadentalins.com/oral_health/overbrushing.html
- OJFord 5y ago
  > I reduced my cleaning visits to once a year because there's usually nothing there for the hygienist to remove. I've never been to an oral hygienist; I go to the dentist once every 12-18 months on his advice. (Though currently almost two years due to the pandemic; emergency appointments only.) > Perhaps you tried the wrong kind of toothbrush? Yeah, there'd always be someone's preferred brand that I didn't try and would be better even if I was saying I liked the one I did - I just don't feel the need to try multiple expensive electric ones when manual seems fine to me, and in adult life at least check-ups have just been 'all good, see you in 12mo'. > https://www.deltadentalins.com/oral_health/overbrushing.html https://www.deltadentalins.com/oral_health/overbrushing.html Perhaps I do brush too hard, I'll try (not doing) that. But that's surely an orthogonal issue, one could (I probably did) brush 'too hard' regardless of whether it's manual or electric.
climb_stealth 5y ago
As someone who used to scrub more than brush teeth: According to my dentist brushing too strongly can cause your gums to recede. And apparently they don't recover so damage is permanent. You are meant to use about 80 grams of pressure, which is pretty much none at all. A decent electric toothbrush like a Sonicare feels like it cleans much better with hardly using any pressure. The base models are fine, all the additional options are unnecessary if you just want to brush your teeth. Personally, switching to an electric toothbrush has been the best thing.
- danielmeskin 5y ago
  This is correct. My gums unfortunately receded and * my teeth are extremely sensitive * the area is sore constantly * I will need a graft from elsewhere in my mouth to correct it.
- mxxx 5y ago
  yeah my dentist recommended i get an electric brush that warns you if you're applying to much force. turns out i was, a lot.
executive 5y ago
"brush hard" is bad advice. Brush very softly. Cheap hardware is fine, just make sure bristles are soft/ultra soft (packaging will say soft somewhere). And you only need to brush each tooth ~6x per side.

alt-enter 5y ago

Hygiene guidelines may prevent OP from returning it if the item is open.

LegitShady 5y ago
A store is a store. If he sells toothbrushes he has to take them back if the customer doesn’t want them. If he eats a loss on it, then maybe he should reconsider selling them.
- alt-enter 5y ago
  Not necessarily. Depending on the country, stores can set their return policy when it comes to non-defective items. I know several major retailers that refuse returns on headphones if they have been opened due to hygiene issues. If the headphones are defective or unopened, then they will accept returns. OP returning a working toothbrush may fall under the same scenario.
  - LegitShady 5y ago
    I consider a toothbrush that requires an app a defective product.

thiht 5y ago

20 bucks electric toothbrushes are the same, no need to spend 80 bucks. Just buy a brand model.