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I agree with your first paragraph. I don't think the solution is to use ranked choices though. I think the solution is to make voting rights contingent on ful
by gonational 5y ago
I agree with your first paragraph.
I don't think the solution is to use ranked choices though.
I think the solution is to make voting rights contingent on full time work or taxes paid (whether through work or capital gains). As long as you work full time or pay an equivalent in federal taxes of a full-time minimum wage employee (before deductions, because I realize minimum wage employees pay almost no taxes to begin with), you get to vote.
You might think this is draconian, but without using any emotion and trying to be purely logical, can you think of one reason why somebody who doesn't pay any taxes or work full-time should have a vote on the government that is funded by tax dollars from other working people? It doesn't mean people who don't work or worthless or should be marginalized in anyway; it means that they don't have a place in the political world, because politics is for government and government is designed to manage people and is paid for by the people who build the society that is being governed. Those who don't want to participate in this society by working have choices, they can stay at home and play video games or they might be a stay at home husband or wife or whatever, or they might just be somebody who wants to sleep in the park, whatever the case, it doesn't mean that they are a worthless human, but they are not really an active participant in the economy being governed. If I'm a stay at home husband and my wife works, my wife gets a vote and I can hopefully attempt to persuade her if I have an opinion, but if I'm not participating in the economy, I don't expect that I should have the ability to make choices about with my wife's taxes are spent on.
Of course the exception would be those in retirement who did previously work.
- qsort 5y ago> without using any emotion and trying to be purely logical, can you think of one reason why somebody who doesn't pay any taxes or work full-time should have a vote on the government that is funded by tax dollars from other working people? Yes, I do. Because moving around cash isn't the only thing a modern government does. Governments hold immense power over each and every citizen, and as such, each and every citizen should have a say in how governments are run. TLDR: If you can send me to fight in a war, you'd better have me have a say in the decision.
- dagw 5y agoOnce you start making voting conditional on being part of a certain class then the then people in power will start making sure that the people who disagree with them end up in the class that isn't allowed to vote.
- paxys 5y agoThis would only make sense if there was an "exclude me from society" option that people could opt in to. Do any new laws created apply to me? Will the government regulate my lifestyle? Could the government legally seize my property? Could I be sent to fight in a war? If all of this is true then I damn well have the right to vote. Working full time or part time or not at all has absolutely nothing to do with it.
- gonational 5y agoMilitary protection, as well as streets, side walks, fire and schools, are all free service given to non-taxpayers. And everybody is subject to the draft, yet only taxpayers actually pay for the military and its weapons. I think that's a fair trade.