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Furries? I mean, their whole schtick is that they feel like a different animal trapped in a human body. That's pretty introspective and self-aware, I guess.

klyrs 5y ago
The absurdity of the original comment is that goths and emos are characteristically introspective to a fault. Grunge and goths embodied an attempt to flee from self -- the awareness of which was a necessity for that dynamic. Finally, hipsters (not the original hipsters[1], of course) were painfully self-aware, and self-mocking. The funniest part is where it's asserted that these "fads" were "played out" by the time they gained any popularity. Which was only true of emos; they swept aside everything that made grunge and goth culture aesthetically interesting, and adopted normcore instead. Well, true of hipsters, too, but "before it was cool" was their whole thing; the played-out nature of the fad was effectively a joke on everybody who cared enough to be bothered by shat beer and silly facial hair. But, no, I don't think you're right about furries. They aren't "animals trapped in a human's body," that's a mischaracterization used by edgelords who dunk on transgender people. Furries extremely diverse in their internal and external narratives, and I won't attempt to provide an alternative characterization. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(1940s_subculture) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(1940s_subculture)
- sidlls 5y ago
  That’s quite a bit of post facto rationalization for various fads that amounted to little more than “this generation’s angst manifest and given a larger platform thanks to an ever-expanding media footprint.”
  - klyrs 5y ago
    I was a grunge/goth raised by hippies; when I went back to university, I was surrounded by emos and hipsters. It isn't so much "post facto rationalization" as much as a quick summary of decades of observation. You're describing these subcultures that I've been immersed in with a dismissive outsider's perspective. Stay curious

klyrs 5y ago

The absurdity of the original comment is that goths and emos are characteristically introspective to a fault. Grunge and goths embodied an attempt to flee from self -- the awareness of which was a necessity for that dynamic. Finally, hipsters (not the original hipsters[1], of course) were painfully self-aware, and self-mocking. The funniest part is where it's asserted that these "fads" were "played out" by the time they gained any popularity. Which was only true of emos; they swept aside everything that made grunge and goth culture aesthetically interesting, and adopted normcore instead. Well, true of hipsters, too, but "before it was cool" was their whole thing; the played-out nature of the fad was effectively a joke on everybody who cared enough to be bothered by shat beer and silly facial hair. But, no, I don't think you're right about furries. They aren't "animals trapped in a human's body," that's a mischaracterization used by edgelords who dunk on transgender people. Furries extremely diverse in their internal and external narratives, and I won't attempt to provide an alternative characterization. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(1940s_subculture) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(1940s_subculture)

sidlls 5y ago
That’s quite a bit of post facto rationalization for various fads that amounted to little more than “this generation’s angst manifest and given a larger platform thanks to an ever-expanding media footprint.”
- klyrs 5y ago
  I was a grunge/goth raised by hippies; when I went back to university, I was surrounded by emos and hipsters. It isn't so much "post facto rationalization" as much as a quick summary of decades of observation. You're describing these subcultures that I've been immersed in with a dismissive outsider's perspective. Stay curious