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This is like saying "electricity also had negative effects because it's used for meme-y things like Christmas tree lightning or controversial stuff like Bitcoin

This is like saying "electricity also had negative effects because it's used for meme-y things like Christmas tree lightning or controversial stuff like Bitcoin mining". Yeah, fine, but literally our entire modern way of life is based on electricity. I wouldn't go as far as saying our entire way of life is based on the Web, but the Web definitely plays a huge role. Even if you want to ignore the Web personally, if you go out to buy bread, the bakery probably ordered the inventory via a website, so thanks to the Web. And if the Web's application layer is not HTML, CSS or Javascript, then what is it?

croes 5y ago
The negative side effects of our technology including electricity led to environmental pollution, species extinction and climate change. How this will turn out for mankind is not certain. This could just be the calm before the storm for mankind. And the greatest benefit of the web is not at the user level, but below. Control and measurement signals do not need HTML, TCP and UDP are sufficient. All the APIs also deliver mainly text in the form of Json and the like. Apart from that, the technology may have improved for developers, but as a user the web pages were faster, slimmer, more informative 10-15 years ago. Today there is a lot of click bait and dark patterns. If you are looking for information off the mainstream ( I don't mean news but technical information) the data is mostly hard to find. Much is also simply gone because the links are dead, without Archive.org it would be even worse. "The net doesn't forget"? Bullshit. It forgets many things, but it remembers concert pictures of Beyonce.
croes 5y ago
And don't forget, this whole web paved the path for mass surveillance. "Your Scientists Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn’t Stop To Think If They Should". This is also true for developers. Have you ever read The Physicists by Friedrich Dürrenmatt?

croes 5y ago

The negative side effects of our technology including electricity led to environmental pollution, species extinction and climate change. How this will turn out for mankind is not certain. This could just be the calm before the storm for mankind. And the greatest benefit of the web is not at the user level, but below. Control and measurement signals do not need HTML, TCP and UDP are sufficient. All the APIs also deliver mainly text in the form of Json and the like. Apart from that, the technology may have improved for developers, but as a user the web pages were faster, slimmer, more informative 10-15 years ago. Today there is a lot of click bait and dark patterns. If you are looking for information off the mainstream ( I don't mean news but technical information) the data is mostly hard to find. Much is also simply gone because the links are dead, without Archive.org it would be even worse. "The net doesn't forget"? Bullshit. It forgets many things, but it remembers concert pictures of Beyonce.

croes 5y ago

And don't forget, this whole web paved the path for mass surveillance. "Your Scientists Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn’t Stop To Think If They Should". This is also true for developers. Have you ever read The Physicists by Friedrich Dürrenmatt?