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Every time there’s an iOS update, the internet goes crazy about their phone being slow or hot or not holding a charge. Then, a day or two later, the background
by raldi 5y ago
Every time there’s an iOS update, the internet goes crazy about their phone being slow or hot or not holding a charge. Then, a day or two later, the background system processes finish doing their post-upgrade homework and everything goes back to normal.
- raspasov 5y agoWell I've been developing iOS apps for a long time, and updated many times. I don't remember anything as dramatic as this!
- raldi 5y agoHmm, if I specifically go looking for reports of benchmarks going down, it does seem to be a much more prevalent story with this version than any previous one.
- raspasov 5y agoYes. The slow down was real and very significant and it lasted hours. It was not people freaking out for no reason.
- raldi 5y agoReports of post-upgrade slowdown are pretty common (google it for various versions), but this is the first time I’m seeing lots of reports of post-upgrade benchmark hits.
- asdff 5y agoExcept for when apple started throttling phones with batteries below 85% capacity.
- zepto 5y ago…to extend the usable life of those batteries.
- Dah00n 5y agoYes. So now instead of driving 100 miles with 100 miles pers hour I'm now doing 100 miles with 85 mph.
- zepto 5y agoDid you know that batteries are made of chemicals and don’t last forever? Over time their performance degrades, but you can use them for longer if you don’t use as much peak power.
- albertzeyer 5y agoTo be fair, iOS maybe should put some visual indicator that it is doing this. Then everything would be obvious.
- brundolf 5y ago"Background system processes running" wouldn't be obvious to non-technical users. It might even be distressing. If the process isn't something that can easily be explained to a regular user, I can see why Apple wouldn't try and communicate about it. Though I could see maybe detecting that a user is a developer and showing a message only for those users
- nepthar 5y agoTrue, but it could be marketed a bit better: "Update finishing in the background"
- stuaxo 5y agoPeople hate updates, it would make them more aware they are happening.
- nitrogen 5y agoPeople deserve to know what their digital brains are doing on their behalf.
- m45t3r 5y agoThis is how Android shows it, and I think it is quite good because the phone feels slower while finishing the upgrade.
- Dah00n 5y agoBut unlike this (which is timed in hours) in Android it's done in a minute and then the notification is gone. Maybe Apple should start by doing the update in minutes first.
- EpicEng 5y agoIf your update system requires 1-2 days of "post-upgrade homeswork" time and slows your phone by 50% in the process, you've designed a very poor update system.
- zepto 5y agoWhy? Seems like this just ignores reality. It’s just true that data structures change over time, and sometimes new features mean that old data needs to be re-processed.
- cronix 5y ago> It’s just true that data structures change over time Sure, but it seems only 1 of the OS's takes this long to be fully usable post-update. Why is that? Does Android not ever have to change data structures and if so, why doesn't it take their OS 24-48 hours of post-processing to finish the update? You find this acceptable?
- zepto 5y agoAndroid doesn’t have the same feature set. Comparing the two like this is an obvious fallacy. For example, Apple does their ML e.g. for photos on device for privacy reasons, whereas Google does it in the cloud. I’m not saying ML is the cause although it could be. I’m saying they are different products with different values, so expecting them to behave the same doesn’t make sense. And yes, some background processing after an update is more than acceptable. It’s desirable if it means sending less data to Google.
- raldi 5y agoIt's a non-concern for 99% of users. iOS vs Android version piecharts always look like this: https://www.alistdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/assets/alist-archived/2013/06/apple-and-android-distribution-chart.jpg https://www.alistdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/assets/alist-a... Apple successfully upgrades a huge majority of all their phones in the field, and nearly all of those users are barely even aware of it. They plug their phone in at night, sometimes in the morning there's a message about a new version. Maybe they notice their phone is slow for a day or two, likely they don't. No major incidents involving mass-bricking of phones, no rollbacks, no data loss... arguably the most successful update system in the history of technology.